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I didn't know where to put this thread as the lures I am asking about aren't really soft plastics nor are they hard bodies.

I have been reading about these frog lures. They are a soft spongy looking lure that is meant to resemble a frog or something similar. As far as I can understand they are meant for around lillies etc. Does anyone know anymore about them...Where to buy them..how to use them...etc etc. They looked like goers in the article but info was scarce so any info would be great.

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Frog lures are normally used for fishing in the really really nasty and rough snags, over weedbeds, in weed pockets, over lilypads, and in standing grass edges. Most frog lures are designed weedless- either with a single or a double hook, but there are some that have a treble hanging under the belly, but those cant be fished in weedbeds.

Excellent lures to fish, the surface strikes you got are heart stopping and VERY VERY addictive lol :D :D :D :D :D.:laugh: :laugh:

About 90% of frog lures are made of a soft plastic with the hook held in place by a weighted keel + tail system. The frog is made weedless as the body of the frog is made so that the hook is set just at the same level as the body, so that when the lure is retrieved through weeds and all sorts of other rubbish, the lure stays weedless. However, the plastic is soft enough that when a fish strikes and swallows the lure, the plastic compresses, and exposes the hook. The subsequent strike gives the hookset.

How to use em? well, it'd depend on the type of frog lure actually- quite a few companies make them, and i've seen one in Tackle Warehouse here, but it was one of the lousier ones. Smith makes the Dentos and the Baby Dentos, Viva(Japan) make the Mazzy Frog and the MF Flapper, there's the US Sumo Frog, if i remember correctly Whiplash Factory Japan have their own frogs too, Megabass have the Type-X and so on.

There are 2 basic types of frogs - floating frogs and sinking frogs. Sinking ones are better for spooky conditions and are normally fished by casting the frog beyond a point into the grass or bush, twitching it slowly into the water till it drops in, then letting it sink to the bottom before slowly twitching it back. Floating frogs- there are many types- cup faced frog lures, dogwalking frog lures etc. Generally, they're used by casting into weed pockets, thick brush etc, and then twitching or waking them back.

lots more to tell lol, because we do alot of frog game in malaysia for snakeheads. if anyone wants to know more, i'll help however i can. will post a few pictures later :)

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Frog fishing 101 :P. haha. jk jk. well yea, what you see in the background is the type of area in which frog lures are normally used. The fish in this kind of area normally lie just below the weeds waiting for some tasty morsel to hop by before smashing it from underneath. Needless to say, we fish with braid up to 50lb, but i prefer 20lb fireline with a frog game leader up front. [img size=338]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/haruan1.JPG

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Nice post Kiara, like Ellicat said, very informative.

Those Snakeyes? are they freshwater?

I have a mate with a huge aquarium and I'm sure he paid around $400 for one of them about 4\" long...if its the same fish.

It died about three weeks later! and needless to say that was the end of his exotic catfish mania.

cheers

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mojo wrote:

Nice post Kiara, like Ellicat said, very informative.

Those Snakeyes? are they freshwater?

I have a mate with a huge aquarium and I'm sure he paid around $400 for one of them about 4\" long...if its the same fish.

It died about three weeks later! and needless to say that was the end of his exotic catfish mania.

cheers

Snakeheads. yes, they're freshwater fish, but there are some that live in brackish waters wamps as well. the majority - 80% live in freshwater tho. Haha, if he paid $400 for the same fish, or an exotic sub-specie of it, hmm, he might've been conned lol, there is an exotic sub-specie of the snakeheads which has beautiful patterns on it.. BUT it starves itself to death in captivity. noone has had any success on keeping them in captivity till today.

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Hi Feral, about ten years ago I was right into the exotic catfish myself, a few dealers in sydney regulary got shipments with the odd one or two banned species, The DPI have sice cracked down hard on this.(with good reason). back then if you had enough money you could buy anything, piranah, snakeheads, etc etc.

I myself paid $400 for a 3\" long redtail catfish. They are just an awesome beautiful fish, last time I was at underwaterworld in Moolooba they had 3 of em, each about 2 feet long swimming around in the yellowbelly tank, they grow to around 100 pounds+ in the wild.

Jet black on top, white underbelly and a stricking red tail......and what a predator, I thought barra were the most ravenous feeders until I saw this thing eat.

I'd drop a fresh prawn in the water and you could actually hear the snap of its jaws...no kidding.

I would hate to think what these things could do if introduced.

Plugger as I called him after the stkilda jumper grew to about 18 inches in no time and somehow got infected with gill fluke disease, (probably from live food) I rushed him to a specialist fish vet but it was too late...it was quiet sad for everyone as this fish had real personality...i was never game to try hand feeding though.

Btw, I and most people I knew in the hobbie would never dream of releasing anything like this in the wild, but it only takes one idiot to try out there kids new baby fish for live bait, or try breeding them in dams to ruin everything, tilapia is a glaring example.

cheers

mojo

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No idea Angus, they feature heavily in the DPI paperwork though!

I know most responsible people would not release exotic fish, but it only takes one \"toorak toff\" to buy spoilt little junior an expensive exotic fish coz it looks pretty, not really knowing what it is and when junior is sick of it sticking it in the local creek or flushing it!

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Karma to you kiara-poltergeistsomethingarather. Cheers. Very informative. Helped me out with all the info I want.;)

JeffF. Got a few old pluggers laying around..think the smell might deterr the fish more than atract them...but hey worth a try.:P

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