Tail Spinners - Your Thoughts

[Zim man]

Hi All

i just got in a few of these to look at and try out.

It weighs 30grams and the body is 60mm long. Has anyone used this type of lure before and if so what successes did they have with it.

Here are some pics of one of them.

I think it my be a bit big for bass but i may be wrong. I think it may have more use in saltwater applications due to its size. Threadies may like it

cheers

[Angus]

They look pretty sweet but 60mm body plus the tail is prob bigger than id use for bass.

I would seriously give them a crack off the rocks at straddy for tailor and trevs though.

Angus

[Keechie]

They look interesting, obviously for fish with big bucket mouths as the hook up rate on the normal mouthed fish would be much less due to the spinner being at the back. I reckon jewies would love these and definetly flathead. Goodluck with using them.

[Angus]

Further, I think id tie a loop knot right to the loop on the lure and remove that split ring.

I wonder how hard it would be to rig a Treble Stinger on some wire and would this effect the tail spin??

Angus

[Little Grey Men]

I gave something similar a crack last year at the dam ( landbased ). They snagged up on just about every cast because of the weight. They might be OK if your on top of the fish jigging.

Not a bad size for bass ( I've caught them on 100mm Jackalls )but the hook placement means the fish will often swipe the blade and not the lure body. They do the same with spinnerbaits but the stinger hook puts the odds in your favour a little more.

I reckon it would be worth taking one for deep schooled fish, you never know what they'll want on the day.

[chris_stewart14]

30 grams you would definately struggle to keep them off the bottom..

I like the look of it without the spinner but as gus said, I think moving them at fast pace for pelargics could be fruitful.

[kiara_poltegerist]

exact copy of the megabass doppler-x. Originally designed as a seabass lure to be cast and retrieved at varying speeds to vary the depth at which it swims.

they cast like bullets, but you need to slow down the line flow just before the lure hits the water or else 8/10 times the tail blade will foul on the leader.

barracuda loved them, and another malaysian high speed specie loved it too. the original had an additional tow point for a stinger double hook.

i reckon it'd be good for tailor here. no harm giving it a try. works well with a lift and fall technique from boat too.

[Feral]

I've got a few in chrome and Black metal, have not given them much of a go, mine dont suit casting, to heavy, they are more for jigging which is not something I do often.

[bretto]

Used a simular thing in victoria for salmon. I bet they would work here for tailor and kings. Does the body wobble like a blade as well? Would love to cast a few around the seaway.

[fishinglife]

I used to use the TT jig heads with the spinner blade and a atomic prong on em for threadie, never caught anything but I always bored easily lure fishing for threadie.

They look great for larger fish on the bite, I would try them I guess.

the threadie feels the vibrations when they hunt so they could be the goods..

let us know how they fare.

Dave

[fishingnut]

reckon it would work better with a treble or stinger at the back, looks like a faster working lure (30g) with a slow working blade retrieve wise? would probably be a gun tailor lure tho

[fishinking]

yeah i wud definately take the blade of the back and add a small owner treble to the back would increase hook up rate and the blade looks kinda funny.

[fishingnut]

tow point is too high up and needs to be more on the "nose" either that or put a much smaller blade on the rear

[fishinking]

the tow point is fine as it needs to be located at the top of the body to give the lure a good action. just have no blade at all on the rear

[Stinger]

Mate I use jigheads with blades on that I get of ebay and they are easily my favourite way to fish.

My suggestion for your set up is to use a smaller blade attched to the front eye and move the trebles to the back.

[Dinodadog]

They would have been dynamite on the bass scools casting from the bank at macgavins a couple of years ago. I reakon I could make them work on the bass.

[Keechie]

dino i am sure you would be able to make anything work on the bass lol.

[apoklyps60]

i have the same but with a shorter body. also it has a colorado leaf instead of a willow blade. it is 3/4 oz and it does cast a country mile. because of the colorado it has a slower thump thump and it doesnt snag too often. ive caught striped bass off of mine. here is a ling to show what it looks like.

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[Little Grey Men]

Dinodadog wrote:

They would have been dynamite on the bass scools casting from the bank at macgavins a couple of years ago. I reakon I could make them work on the bass.

I had the same idea mate but in "that" spot I had to hold the rod way up high and wind like buggery to get them over the snags and ledges. ( I miss that spot )

I did get a good hit and it came back minus the spinner blade. :laugh:

A version half the weight could be interesting though.

[Dinodadog]

I thought they would get to the bottom dwellersquick now that we have 81ft depths again.

[TomW]

fishinking wrote:

the tow point is fine as it needs to be located at the top of the body to give the lure a good action. just have no blade at all on the rear

The blade actually helps set out vibration and shines, stimulating a baitfish fleeing/shining.

Thanks TomW

[fishinking]

yes its supposed to attract fish which i believe it does but there is no real need for it when the blade should make a good enough vibration and take away the blade and add another treble and you have more chance at hooking the fish.

ps: do you mean simulating a baitfish? or stimulating?

[Keechie]

i think the blade there is to give off more of a shine to attract the fish as well as the typical vibe vibration.

[fishinking]

yeah thats what its for to shine and attract the fish but it does still vibe

[TomW]

I'd personally leave the blade on,

TomW

[fishinking]

yeah sure your opinion. but no point really, if its a good enough lure and has a good vibe all you need to concentrate on is the hook up rate.

[Little Grey Men]

Does this lure vibe ? the ones I've used in the past don't. If it's similar to the ones I used, the blade is actually whats keeps the lure swimming. The spinning action send pulses through the water to attract the fish as well as creating the all important flash. Without the blade its a lump of painted metal that would have no action.

But if the lure is a vibe with a spinner...now that would be interesting.

[Little Grey Men]

Dinodadog wrote:

I thought they would get to the bottom dwellersquick now that we have 81ft depths again.

81ft...geeeez thats some serious depth for North Pine.

[faulked]

Dinodadog wrote:

They would have been dynamite on the bass scools casting from the bank at macgavins a couple of years ago. I reakon I could make them work on the bass.

mate when it comes to catching bass you could probably get an inanimate carbon rod to work

[fisherjack1394]

yer i have used these before you can catch yellowbelly n them and they are alrite for bas i caught 3 in 3 casts

[Zim man]

Little Grey Men wrote:

Does this lure vibe ? the ones I've used in the past don't. If it's similar to the ones I used, the blade is actually whats keeps the lure swimming. The spinning action send pulses through the water to attract the fish as well as creating the all important flash. Without the blade its a lump of painted metal that would have no action.

But if the lure is a vibe with a spinner...now that would be interesting.

you are right about it having no action without the blade. The blade has to stay , otherwise, like you said, its just a lump of metal . I tried them at NPD yesteray with Ray and definitely think that they are better suited to saltwater action. Not a bad action on them, more flash than anything else. At 30 grams, they cast a country mile. I will wait and see what demand is like at the AFTA show before bringing any in.

cheers

rob

[fishinking]

sounds like a dissapointing lure, no action without the blade off the back . i think ill stick to tt blades and ecogear vx's

[apoklyps60]

change the blade to a smaller colorado. itll help keep it afloat higher in the column that is if you want it to do that. it also creates a slower thump.hope it helps

[MOC]

fishinking wrote:

sounds like a dissapointing lure, no action without the blade off the back . i think ill stick to tt blades and ecogear vx's

It is not a blade it is a tail spinner. A blade simulates a fleeing bait fish with its tight action a tail spinner is designed with an aggressive flashing action to induce a strike from a territorial fish like cod and golden perch. I had a bit of success with some Gary Howard ones a few years back but they have been hard to find of late.

Mick

[fishinking]

yeah now just realised that its not a blade (bit embarrassing) haha.