Cast netting

[shortie]

For those of you that have read the May 2010 editionof bush and beach there is an article in there about "Fixing your cast net on page 70-71

What i found interesting about this article is the statement in the section "What can you eat from your cast net"

It says"

Just a reminder about what you can and can't eat when cast netting. Well, you can eat prawns and that about it. All other fish that are caught in your cast net are either bait or must be released. In the past i have often been told by fishoes about flathead, whiting, mullet and bream being taken from cast nets and eaten, buit this is definatelly against the law"

My understanding was as long as it a legal species and of the required size you are able to keep it.

Which is correct.

I have called Bush and beach to ask about the statement. awaiting a call back

Richard.

[MentallyUnsound]

shortie wrote:

My understanding was as long as it a legal species and of the required size you are able to keep it.

i'm under the same impression, if its a legal species and size limit, its mine!

interested in the outcome.

Dave

[Do$tylz]

Really??? that's interesting. I haven't seen anything like that described in any of the QLD fisheries publications..

Keep us posted Shortie.

[hooked_on_trout]

Cast netting fish is not a lot of fun, but when those big 15cm+ prawns are on well I am in there for a feed.

cheers

[Joel Eadie]

i have heard that the rule is you cant keep fish as well but got loads of comments back saying i was wrong.

can you take bait home once you cast netted it? i might do that next time i get a flatty.

not to eat of course just for bait

[Gad]

shortie wrote:

For those of you that have read the May 2010 editionof bush and beach there is an article in there about "Fixing your cast net on page 70-71.....

My understanding was as long as it a legal species and of the required size you are able to keep it.Richard.

99.9% of fisho`s would be of the same belief as you.

Joel Eadie wrote:

i have heard that the rule is you cant keep fish as well but got loads of comments back saying i was wrong.

can you take bait home once you cast netted it? i might do that next time i get a flatty.

not to eat of course just for baitquote

Good thinking... I have found that flatty`s can be cannibals and a hooked strip off a flatty fillet can be a successful flatty bait

[MentallyUnsound]

the same post/question has popped up on Nuggets forum, and quoted from nugget himself

"There is no rule that stops you keeping what you catch in a cast net as long as it is legal size"

cheers

dave

[Shorty]

Joel Eadie wrote:

i have heard that the rule is you cant keep fish as well but got loads of comments back saying i was wrong.

can you take bait home once you cast netted it? i might do that next time i get a flatty.

not to eat of course just for bait

I would be very careful with taking undersized fish for any purpose because as far as I'm aware, if you are taking fish, even fish to be used as bait, they must be of legal size for you to keep and use this way.

Happy to be proven wrong about this but that is how I understand the rule\law to be and I'd hate to see someone from off here get pinged.

Very interested to hear what the reply back is shortie!

Cheers,

Chris

[webbfunk]

I'm under the same impression as you Shortie.

Doesn't say anything about it here - http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/28_3042.htm#size_take_and_possession

As far as I knew its all about size and quantity, nothing to do with HOW you caught it.

[swabio]

Hmm i wonder if there has been a change in policy. As i swear that it used to specify that you had to release non bait fish (other than prawns) regardless of the size.

[Gad]

swabio wrote:

Hmm i wonder if there has been a change in policy. As i swear that it used to specify that you had to release non bait fish (other than prawns) regardless of the size.

I think that was the case many, many years ago when everyone used 50 foot bait drag nets,before cast nets came into vogue

[daveylad]

reading the Dept of Primary Industries Rules

it states "Any fish caught to be used as bait must comply with all recreational fishing regulations (such as size and bag limits and closed seasons) No take species cannot be used as bait. Any fish that are not Native to the area (non-indeginous and noxious) Must not be put back in the water even as bait."

It also states that Prohibited Fishing gear includes: Cast Nets....ALL THERE WORDING

breaking it down my interpretation:

[ul][/ul]Fish caught in the net must be legal size so anything under is to be thrown back unless its a non native or obnoxious...Okay so it means If I catch a fish under size it is to go back..unless its non native(carp etc) so the little mullet and hardy heads are they okay???

[ul][/ul]Cast nets are prohibited gear ..I think it means to use as fishing bit cloudy should state okay for bait collection but not to be used as a primary method of fishing

I've read a lot of legislture and regulations over the years but this one is a doozy very confusing I think I will give them a ring and ask someone see how they can explain the regs

[marty]

daveylad wrote:

reading the Dept of Primary Industries Rules

It also states that Prohibited Fishing gear includes: Cast Nets....ALL THERE WORDING

Cast nets are prohibited gear ..I think it means to use as fishing bit cloudy should state okay for bait collection but not to be used as a primary method of fishing

If you read the regs carefully it states cast nets are prohibited for use in QLD in non-tidal water (ie. fresh water).

They can be used in all tidal water (ie. salt water) as long as they comply to size restrictions.

Marty

[daveylad]

marty wrote:

daveylad wrote:

reading the Dept of Primary Industries Rules

It also states that Prohibited Fishing gear includes: Cast Nets....ALL THERE WORDING

Cast nets are prohibited gear ..I think it means to use as fishing bit cloudy should state okay for bait collection but not to be used as a primary method of fishing

If you read the regs carefully it states cast nets are prohibited for use in QLD in non-tidal water (ie. fresh water).

They can be used in all tidal water (ie. salt water) as long as they comply to size restrictions.

Marty

Yes right, missed the fresh water heading but the fish species is still the main problem that I see other than Flathead,Bream and other bread and butter species what fish species constitutes a fish able to be taken from the net regardless of its size what we would call a bait fish Is there a scientific name for hardiheads and other popular baitfish that is used?

[daveylad]

Just spoken to a bloke at the dept of Fisheries at Noosa this document helped plus talking to him also, he outlined the main problems and said it was difficult because of peoples knowlege these are the main ones with problems; FOR TIDAL WATERS

Mullet

Diamondscale NEW 30 min Bag Limit 20

Diamondscale NEW 30 min Bag Limit 20

Mullet (Sea) NEW 30 min Bag Limit 20

Wolf herring NEW No limit

All flathead (except dusky flathead)

NEW 30 min

Combined limit of 5 in total of all species (except dusky flathead)

Dusky flathead (mud flathead) NEW

40 min 75 max 5

Garfish NEW

No limit 50

All whiting (except trumpeter whiting)

NEW 23 min

Combined Bag limit

of 30 in total of all whiting species

(except trumpeter whiting) Trumpeter (winter whiting)

NEW No limit

Trevally NEW No size limit bag limit 20

I guess its up to the person fishing to obtain a sound knowlege of the species, person I spoke to said the main offences occur with the whiting species and secondly flatheaad species, Hardiheads are okay any size and no limits other than ability to release any you dont need or use

I'm going to carefully look at the species from now on and look at the juvenile ones

I used this document to get the info from Department of Primary Industries and Fisheries
/>http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/documents/Fisheries_RecreationalFishing/RecFishing-SizeAndTake-combined.pdf

[jeff f]

i had the fisheries guys make me put a legal mudcrab that i got in the cast net back because the cast net is not an approved apperatus ie crab pot, dilly or line

[shortie]

Im a bit disappointed with the publication as they took my details and promised me a phone call back. I still havent heard anything.

Richard

[Joel Eadie]

Shorty wrote:

Joel Eadie wrote:

i have heard that the rule is you cant keep fish as well but got loads of comments back saying i was wrong.

can you take bait home once you cast netted it? i might do that next time i get a flatty.

not to eat of course just for bait

I would be very careful with taking undersized fish for any purpose because as far as I'm aware, if you are taking fish, even fish to be used as bait, they must be of legal size for you to keep and use this way.

Happy to be proven wrong about this but that is how I understand the rule\law to be and I'd hate to see someone from off here get pinged.

Very interested to hear what the reply back is shortie!

Cheers,

Chris

sorry didnt explain myself well enough. i didnt mean take undersize fish

im just saying if the flathead is legal size then if you keep it whats to stop you saying its just for bait if you get pulled up.

i would say that having it illigal to eat fish caught by net would be too hard to regulate unless there was a list of fish you could/couldnt use for bait.

im pretty sure its not illigal to use legal size flathead for bait (not that anyone would i hope)

still, even if it is legal kinda takes the fun out of fishing which is what were all in it for anyway

[Davo_Dinkum]

what do the poddy mullet come under ?

are they just small diamond scale mullet ?

[daveylad]

Mullet

Diamondscale NEW 30 min Bag Limit 20

Diamondscale NEW 30 min Bag Limit 20

Mullet (Sea) NEW 30 min Bag Limit 20

Not sure davo what a Poddy is called these are the ones on the web site and what size they should be to keep and numbers, I asked the guy what fish we could keep if they were small and the only ones he came up with are the ones on my post I asked about others Hardiheads and he said no problmes keep them any size and numbers thats were the problem is the fish we can keep regardless of their size the list is not very good

Davey

[Gad]

daveylad wrote:

All flathead (except dusky flathead)

NEW 30 min

Combined limit of 5 in total of all species (except dusky flathead)

Dusky flathead (mud flathead) NEW

40 min 75 max 5[/b]http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/documents/Fisheries_RecreationalFishing/RecFishing-SizeAndTake-combined.pdf

not that I`m in favour of it...but wasn`t the max legal take length of dusky flathead recently dropped back to 70cm

cheers Gad

[Davo_Dinkum]

i did a Google search ,on poddy mullet .

The term "poddy" refers to the juvenile of a particular species. Poddy mullet are very popular with anglers for use as live bait.

so i guess poddy are just babies of these 2 .

Diamondscale NEW 30 min Bag Limit 20

Mullet (Sea) NEW 30 min Bag Limit 20

yep better protect the mullet .

some rules are just stupid .

[tugger]

no it was recently increased to 75cm for dusky flathead

Gad wrote:

daveylad wrote:

All flathead (except dusky flathead)

NEW 30 min

Combined limit of 5 in total of all species (except dusky flathead)

Dusky flathead (mud flathead) NEW

40 min 75 max 5[/b]http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/documents/Fisheries_RecreationalFishing/RecFishing-SizeAndTake-combined.pdf

not that I`m in favour of it...but wasn`t the max legal take length of dusky flathead recently dropped back to 70cm

cheers Gad

[Gad]

tugger wrote:

no it was recently increased to 75cm for dusky flathead

Gad wrote:

daveylad wrote:

All flathead (except dusky flathead)

NEW 30 min

Combined limit of 5 in total of all species (except dusky flathead)

Dusky flathead (mud flathead) NEW

40 min 75 max 5[/b]http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/documents/Fisheries_RecreationalFishing/RecFishing-SizeAndTake-combined.pdf

not that I`m in favour of it...but wasn`t the max legal take length of dusky flathead recently dropped back to 70cm

cheers Gad

thanks tugger,

[Joel Eadie]

Davo_Dinkum wrote:

what do the poddy mullet come under ?

are they just small diamond scale mullet ?

accidentally stumbled accross this when looking forregulations on pike. according to the DPI poddy mullet are in their on right a type of mullet and come under the name of Valamugil georgii. apparently also known as silver mullet (that name really defines them from the rest :laugh: )

[bunks]

I was always under the impression that no matter how you caught it, if it was legal size, it was all good. However, I won't keep anything caught in a cast or drag net. Where's the fun in that?