Braid Or Mono I Know It’s Common

[natang]

Hey lads,

I have been persevering with Braid on baitcasters as it is thinner etc however I have a higher rate of tangles. When I use Mono I never get tangles.... PErhaps the line isn’t loading onto reel tight enough IDK...... It’s driving me crazy! What do others use?? I mainly use Hard body lures or bait with them.... If I Use SP I just drop them over side of boat and if casting I use spin reel.....

[kmcrosby78]

If you don't have any luck with braid, check out the Platypus Lo-Stretch mono. I just bought some and it might be a good option for you, is thinner than 'normal' mono and has less stretch.

[Old Scaley]

I have braid on the baitcasters and find it casts better than mono, so maybe the braid you are using is not right for the reel?

[Dinodadog]

When casting with a baitcaster your thumb is important, it feathers your line and then applies the brake, to stop any over runs. It is also not a good idea to cast into the wind especialy with light lures, this is when to use a spin reel.Baitcasters are for close casting work.If you get tangles, always pull the line out backwards.

Dino

[Simo68]

I use braid on my baitcaster, having a Shimano CURADO XG reel helps as it has a little knob to turn and that slows or speeds up the drum...so you can avoid over-runs - what reel are you using?

 

[Luvit]

For light lures, I use spin reel with braid to avoid loose line tangles. Even when twitching lures back and reeling the slack in it is enough to cause problems. A bait caster really requires the line to be reeled on under tension to avoid tangles. In saying that they are an absolute pleasure to use once you say lures 1/4oz or heavier.  

The tuning of the baitcaster reel is the first thing to get right. If it is a Daiwa reel turn the casting adjustment knob up to 10. Tie the lure on you are gong to use and hang it 20cm from the tip, release the reel brake with your thumb and the lure should not move. Then slowly turn the casting knob back until the lure just starts to drop slowly. The reel is now ready to practice cast with and do very minor adjustments on the casting knob as you get better. 

As Dino said you have the your thumb just off the surface of the line spool. You can then feather it to slow it down or stop it where you want.

For casting accuracy and distance braid is the way to go. Mono has more resistance when running through the runners and that effects casting accuracy and distance when throwing lures. Even if trolling braid has benefit with the information it feeds back to the rod tip.

If you anywhere near the Northside or at a social I'd be happy to go through it with you. 

 

[natang]

7 hours ago, Dinodadog said:

When casting with a baitcaster your thumb is important, it feathers your line and then applies the brake, to stop any over runs. It is also not a good idea to cast into the wind especialy with light lures, this is when to use a spin reel.Baitcasters are for close casting work.If you get tangles, always pull the line out backwards.

Dino

Thanks Dino, I have been using baotcasters on and off since I was in school (20yrs ago) however laSt couple of years made the sawitch to braid. When casting baits I don’t get tangles more so when tossing lures. I’ve done the whole adjust the reel for each different lure. Perhaps I am trying to cast it too far..... I will try changing that up a bit and see how I go.

 

@kmcrosby78Thanks for the tip on different mono!

[natang]

24 minutes ago, Luvit said:

For light lures, I use spin reel with braid to avoid loose line tangles. Even when twitching lures back and reeling the slack in it is enough to cause problems. A bait caster really requires the line to be reeled on under tension to avoid tangles. In saying that they are an absolute pleasure to use once you say lures 1/4oz or heavier.  

The tuning of the baitcaster reel is the first thing to get right. If it is a Daiwa reel turn the casting adjustment knob up to 10. Tie the lure on you are gong to use and hang it 20cm from the tip, release the reel brake with your thumb and the lure should not move. Then slowly turn the casting knob back until the lure just starts to drop slowly. The reel is now ready to practice cast with and do very minor adjustments on the casting knob as you get better. 

As Dino said you have the your thumb just off the surface of the line spool. You can then feather it to slow it down or stop it where you want.

For casting accuracy and distance braid is the way to go. Mono has more resistance when running through the runners and that effects casting accuracy and distance when throwing lures. Even if trolling braid has benefit with the information it feeds back to the rod tip.

If you anywhere near the Northside or at a social I'd be happy to go through it with you. 

 

Thanks Luv-it I have always used cheap Jarvis Walker baitcasters or the old Abu Garcia 3500 Abasadoor (20yr old) now that I think of it. THe issue only arrived last year when I went out and bought a heap of expensive reels. I have two Daiwa Millionares one in both sizes and I have two Daiwa Laguna’s and it is with the Laguna’s that I am having the problem. Not when I was up north casting the big 10cm lures but more so since being back in SEQLD throwing smaller lures for Bass, Flathead etc....  I’ll have a fiddle with the brake on the Laguna and see I can sort it.... 

[Drop Bear]

Its a great question and many people have different opinions... Here is mine.

Bait fishing;  I prefer mono. I find it more reliable, quicker and easier to tie knots, more shock resistant, able to just tie a hook on the end and you are fishing. Less tangles around guides and less wind knots. This goes for 4lb whiting fishing with yabbies to dropping flesh baits on 40lb for snapper etc. 

Bait fishing exception; Very deep water or in deeper water with a bit of current Braid is far superior. The thinner size has lest resistance in the water and makes a HUGE difference. I have been the only one using braid on a 12 person charter and in a few spots it was about 50m deep with a bit of current. I was the only one to be able to get baits to the bottom and the only one that caught any fish in these conditions. 

Lure Casting; Braid is so much nicer to use most of the time. It takes longer to tie on leaders and you get wind knots but over all I prefer it to mono. This goes for both spinning or bait casters. After casting lures to snags for a day I don't think there is any argument. 

If dropping soft plastics or micro jigs in not too deep water (30m ish) I don't really have a favourite. Braid can be nice and easy to work but mono has shock resistance. Braid can stop things like trout getting back into the coral but Mono can be more forgiving if you get a solid thump. 

[Luvit]

Trying to cast to far with a light wait can definitely cause you problems.

The light lure has to over come the inertia of the spool weight initially, while the spool is spinning at the higher speed the light lure slows quickly due to air resistance and the braid through the runners. This can cause the spool to over run if the angler doesn't slow it with their thumb at the same rate the lure is slowing.

If the lure is heavy enough it will continue on a decent trajectory and the spool brake will slow as the lure speed reduces. For distance casting light lures a spin reel I find is better hoever, there are highend light lure casting bait casters but, we are talking big dollars.