Pe4 Or Pe5?

[Bamo]

Hi,

I have been trying to find a good stickibaiting rod for kingfish, Australian salmon and other similar species in WA that is about 8ft so I can clear the big surf here. I have had a bit of a look at the shimano grappler rod series, mainly the Pe4 and Pe5 models. What rating do you guys think wold be best for what I am trying to catch?

thanks in advance,

Bamo

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

G'day Bamo

For your target species, I would assume the best rating would be line that is tightly woven with a PE rating of 5. Providing you use a leader to suit the fishing, it won't matter going heavier. This will also benefit you if you hook up to a larger model, it will enable you to land it quicker and make sure you do land it.

Cheers Hamish  

[rayke1938]

As an old alvey man nothing less than a 13 or 14 foot rod for the surf with an 8 foot rod you would not be able to clear the break.

Cheers Ray

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

5 hours ago, rayke1938 said:

As an old alvey man nothing less than a 13 or 14 foot rod for the surf with an 8 foot rod you would not be able to clear the break.

Cheers Ray

Hi rayke1938

When you fished with your Alvey what species did you normally come across... would love to hear some fishing tales  

Cheers Hamish

[Bamo]

I will be using it for lures only, and will be using it for on the beach and in the boat, so I want something that can do a bit of both. A rod above 9 or 10 ft would be to cumbersome for casting lures and stickbaits.

Bamo

[rayke1938]

you will have to get 2 rods as 8ft rod useless in the surf

This was my favorite heavy rod landed 8ft shark and 50 lb jewies in the surf

https://www.outbackadventures.net.au/product/gary-howard-surf-classic-low-mount-2-piece-heavy-fishing-rod/

this is the one more suitable for walking the beach as it is a bit lighter. 

https://www.outbackadventures.net.au/product/gary-howard-chopper-special-12ft-low-mount-1-piece-spinning-fishing-rod/

both of these rods are specifically designed for alveys for eggbeaters and bait casters you will need a mid mount that are avail. Gary Howard rods are Australian designed by experienced aussie fishamen.  I highly recommend alvey reels ( Also Australian designed and made in Brisbane)they are durable,low maintenance and are the only reel that if you drop it in the sand you can just dip it in the water and wash out. Try that with your daiwa or shimano reels.

cheers ray

 

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by rayke1938

[GregOug]

I agree totally with rayke. 8 foot for the surf is a waste of time.

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

42 minutes ago, rayke1938 said:

you will have to get 2 rods as 8ft rod useless in the surf

This was my favorite heavy rod landed 8ft shark and 50 lb jewies in the surf

https://www.outbackadventures.net.au/product/gary-howard-surf-classic-low-mount-2-piece-heavy-fishing-rod/

this is the one more suitable for walking the beach as it is a bit lighter. 

https://www.outbackadventures.net.au/product/gary-howard-chopper-special-12ft-low-mount-1-piece-spinning-fishing-rod/

both of these rods are specifically designed for alveys for eggbeaters and bait casters you will need a mid mount that are avail. Gary Howard rods are Australian designed by experienced aussie fishamen.  I highly recommend alvey reels ( Also Australian designed and made in Brisbane)they are durable,low maintenance and are the only reel that if you drop it in the sand you can just dip it in the water and wash out. Try that with your daiwa or shimano reels.

cheers ray

 

 

Hi rayke1938

That is awesome! A 50lb jew and 8ft shark  Did the jewie become dinner?

Those rods look very nice also, while I have not done much surf fishing I've still done ok with light spin rods in the gutter but if I ever get right into it I will have to invest in one of those.

33 minutes ago, GregOug said:

I agree totally with rayke. 8 foot for the surf is a waste of time.

Hi GregOug

I assume you've had experience in the surf, care to share some stories?

Cheers Hamish  

[GregOug]

Hi Hamish,

My main experience with surf fishing is fishing for tailor at Fraser, although I’ve also suffered through surf fishing at a few other locations as well. Casting out into the darkness, getting soaked by waves you can’t even see and then having your bait washed ashore almost immediately by the massive onshore rip running is not my preferred method of relaxation.  Having said that,  occasionally getting nearly pulled off your feet when a huge greenback hits your pillie, and then actually getting it ashore, almost makes it all worthwhile!

cheers

Greg 

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

Hi GregOug

Yes, I don't like standing in the waves and turning around then getting wiped out either.

Must be very fun when you land one though.

Cheers Hamish