queensland The best combo for 300$?

[Mylesfisher]

Hey guys I've been looking to do some mangrove jack fishing with lures and live bait my budget is 300$ and im looking for a combo that I can trustfully cast long distances. The reel can be baitcaster or spin depending on what you think in the baitcaster vs spin argument feel free to add on what you think

[Mylesfisher]

Also the reel has to be 4000 or 4500

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

Hi Myles

You could use a Shimano Stradic reel, or Saragosa (although this would go over your budget). These would be capable of fishing large lures or live baits. A Shimano bait runner would suffice for bait fishing exclusively.

An Abu Garcia overhead reel and Abu Garcia VeritS would make an OK lure fishing rod. I know someone who uses this combo with success.

You could use rods such as a Shimano Raider, Atomic Arrowz Rod, or Abu Garcia Veritas (or Ugly Stik, if you plan to do only bait foshing).

Cheers Hamish 

[Angry51]

14 minutes ago, AUS-BNE-FISHO said:

 

You could use rods such as a Shimano Raider, Atomic Arrowz Rod, or Abu Garcia Veritas (or Ugly Stik, if you plan to do only bait foshing).

Cheers Hamish 

Hamish, Can anyone do that foshing or is it only for southsiders.

PLEASE EXPLAIN, You want to hope Greg doesn't see that.

[Mylesfisher]

Hamish what rod size for the veritas should i get also what length also im picking the stradic ci4 will 4000fb be enough 

 

cheers on going over the budget, Myles

[kmcrosby78]

On 28/12/2021 at 8:53 PM, Mylesfisher said:

Hey guys I've been looking to do some mangrove jack fishing with lures and live bait my budget is 300$ and im looking for a combo that I can trustfully cast long distances. The reel can be baitcaster or spin depending on what you think in the baitcaster vs spin argument feel free to add on what you think

Are you planning to use it in a boat or land based mate? And when you say you want it to trustfully cast long distances, roughly how far are you talking? This will have an impact on preferred rod length.

Also, as you've started this thread to seek an answer to your question, it would be preferable to not add your question to other non-related threads. If you are worried that this thread has slipped down the queue just reply to it to bump it back up the queue .

[Mylesfisher]

12 hours ago, kmcrosby78 said:

Are you planning to use it in a boat or land based mate? And when you say you want it to trustfully cast long distances, roughly how far are you talking? This will have an impact on preferred rod length.

Also, as you've started this thread to seek an answer to your question, it would be preferable to not add your question to other non-related threads. If you are worried that this thread has slipped down the queue just reply to it to bump it back up the queue .

I think i want to cast about 20 to 40 metres across because when i dont get live bait in my cast net i flick lures for gts and jacks also is there any good combo thats on sale that has a stradic ci4 4000fb thats in my budget or a combo that has an alternate reel and rod combo and performs up to the veritas 4.0 and the stradic ci4

 

cheers, Myles

[Mylesfisher]

lol i found 3 reels i could mix with a rod for mangrove jack and trevs they are the daiwa exceler lt 4000d-c reel the daiwa legalis lt 4000d-c reel and the shimano sahara whatdo you think would work the best for mangrove jack and what rods should combo it for the budget of 300$ also feel free to add what combo recently has been great for mangrove jack 

 

cheers, Myles

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

Hi Myles

You may be best of going to a local tackle shop and asking for some advice.

Doug Bert’s store is apparently excellent.

Cheers Hamish 

[GregOug]

On 29/12/21 at 12:33 PM, Angry51 said:

Hamish, Can anyone do that foshing or is it only for southsiders.

PLEASE EXPLAIN, You want to hope Greg doesn't see that.

Thanks Angry. Good to see someone checking Hamish’s work when I’m a bit lax in logging on. And you’re right. I noticed his obvious mistake straight away.
 

Everyone knows Ugly Sticks can be used for lures as well as bait foshing. 

[Mylesfisher]

Im gonna do a loan on my rod and buy a vanford 4000 reel what rod is under 300$ that is good for live bait fishing and lure flicking mainly live baiting but if i have no live bait ill flick the rod has to be 8ft and up because i want my lures to cover a learge area 

 

cheers, myles

[Mylesfisher]

For my mangrove jack setup ill use a shimano vanford 4000 and a daiwa supercasta 5-10kg rod with 20lb braid as my main line and 30lb flourocarbon as my leader hope to catch some jacks today

 

cheers, myles

[ellicat]

Good luck.

[Mylesfisher]

I wanted to pair it with a zodias do they have a model to fit with my reel for mangrove jacks and trevs

[Mylesfisher]

lol would the 2500 vanguard be better than the 4000 for mangrove jack if it is please notify me as if it is then i can pair it with the zodias lol i saw people use 2500s for mangrove jack and trevs on the setup i listed in this message please inform me if its better with lighter stuff cheers, Myles

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

Just now, Mylesfisher said:

lol would the 2500 vanguard be better than the 4000 for mangrove jack if it is please notify me as if it is then i can pair it with the zodias lol i saw people use 2500s for mangrove jack and trevs on the setup i listed in this message please inform me if its better with lighter stuff cheers, Myles

I would go the larger size if you plan to be using live bait.

You don’t need a long cast when chasing jacks, especially when off a boat. A short rod would be fine. I would only use the light rod if you plan to do only lure fishing.

The rod and reel combo you caught a 90cm trevally on would probably handle most Mangrove Jacks, if you do not want to buy a brand new combo.

Cheers Hamish 

[Junky]

4000 size for sure. 

Run 30lb braid. 

Get a 7ft 3kg to 7kg rod that feels good in your hands. 

Get used to fishing with tight drag, otherwise you'll get owned a fair bit, especially with the bigger models. 

Imagine you throw a bessar block off the side of a building and you have to catch it with your outfit, with minimal line being gained. 

 

Better fish will be caught with lures and plastics. 

[Brodie_S]

On 31/12/21 at 9:15 AM, Mylesfisher said:

For my mangrove jack setup ill use a shimano vanford 4000 and a daiwa supercasta 5-10kg rod with 20lb braid as my main line and 30lb flourocarbon as my leader hope to catch some jacks today

 

cheers, myles

I’d stay away from the vanford as the vanford is not much different to the Stradic FL the main diffidence is that it’s lighter has a extra bearing in the handle and the price. Other than that it sounds like a great setup . Vanford is a great reel but with money in mind I think the Stradic FL would better suited without sacrificing quality. Hope that helps. And as others mentioned 30lb braid would more then likely be better 

[Mylesfisher]

Lol I chose the vanford because of its improvements in features even though they are small I want the best reel for my price range lol I chose the mangrove masher instead of the supercaster daiwa td 20 black will this still catch trevs

[Mylesfisher]

Will the mangrove masher daiwa td 20 black be good for trevs at south strattie and at the broad water and will it be adequate for mangrove jack

a response would be good

cheers, Myles

[Old Scaley]

What line weight is the rod? What line are you using? You can catch the sort of trevs you find in the estuaries down the coast on very light gear if you are patient and have your drag set correctly. Jacks need heavier gear, which will also handle trevs easily. Bait or lures?

[Mylesfisher]

live bait and lures mate the mangrove masher is 4-8kg will this hold up with my shimano vanford 4000 for trevs and mangrove jack ill go for jacks in a couple days but i whanna target trev as im goin out to the broadie and out to strattie ill have 30lb braid and 40lb flouro for jacks and 20lb braid and 30lb mono leader for trevs will this hold up if it doesnt i can choose the supercasta which is 5-10kg

 

cheers on answering, Myles

[Old Scaley]

Looks like you have it nailed. Looking forward to the reports.

[Brodie_S]

yep sounds like a great setup for jacks and trevs maybe even the odd jewie if your lucky 

[Mylesfisher]

so the mangrove masher daiwa td 20 black can hold up for trevs and jacks btw its only 6.4 feet the super casta is 7 foot 4 and is 5-10 kg would this be better 

cheers, myles

[Mylesfisher]

also the mangrove masher is 5-8kg

 

[ellicat]

The longer rod would cast better, but pull worse. It's a balancing act. Won't be a massive difference though, so go with what's more comfortable in your hand.

[Mylesfisher]

you can check the website https://daiwafishing.com.au/products/20-team-daiwa-black-v2-rods and go to the models and tell me what would be the best for mangrove jack and trevs out at south strattie and out at the broaddie

[Mylesfisher]

btw the rod should be able to cast at least 20m

[ellicat]

4 minutes ago, Mylesfisher said:

you can check the website https://daiwafishing.com.au/products/20-team-daiwa-black-v2-rods and go to the models and tell me what would be the best for mangrove jack and trevs out at south strattie and out at the broaddie

I think Old Scaley and Bro have answered that one.

They will both cast 20 metres with enough weight on the end of the line.

[Mylesfisher]

Ill probs go for the macka as it has enough length (its 7 feet) and its 5-8kg and the shimano vanford 4000 for trevs and jacks. Im going out to south strattie is there anything else thats not a trev that i can handle on my setup if there is tell me what line and leader and hooks and swivel and general gear i should target for it going camping and fishing at strattie hope to go for some other fish thats not a trev

[ellicat]

You could be a chance of a tailor at Straddie. More likely than a mangrove jack, who are more an estuary or reef species than a surf one.

I'd be using 12lb line and leader. In fact, in the surf I'd be using a much lighter rod - something in the 3 - 5 kg area.

 

 

[Mylesfisher]

Lol I’ll probably go for trevs will the Macka cover this it’s 7ft and 5-8kg

[ellicat]

What size trevs are you thinking you will catch ?

[Mylesfisher]

50cm-90cm

[Mylesfisher]

Lol I’ll probably go for 60-90cm trevs for live baiting sharks. Will the Macka cover this it’s 7ft and 5-8kg btw the macka is gonna be pairef with the shimano vanford 4000 im using this one for trevs will this cover them probs 50-90cm trevs

[ellicat]

So, are you intending fishing off the rocks ? If that is the case, your weight class is probably okay.

[Mylesfisher]

on boat and on the rocks

[Mylesfisher]

also what main line, leader, hook, swivel, sinker and bait should i use for gts out at soth strattie im going out tmr so please answer

[ellicat]

I think you've left it a bit late.

Who are you going with ?