Nibble, nibble and more nibbles

[EMP]

I was at that bridge in Lawnton killing time before picking up my wife. Tide was low. The rod tip moves and moves and each time no strike. Mullet gut almost always half gone each time I would reel it back in.

I just don't get it. Does this mean I was being had by tiny fish?

And oh, there was a couple of times when there seemed like a good strike but each time the rod tip would just go back up again. And of course, no bite.

This fishing thing is bloody addictive!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

EMP

[Cowfish13]

The first thing could have been a Crab or a school of small fish (like Bream or Toadies)

What type of rod and line weight are you using at the moment?

You're certainly right about fishing:D Wait until you get into lure fishing, then collecting lures becomes addictive:D

[Feral]

Crabs!

Try a float next time.

[Dan23]

Yeah, skip bait fishing altogether and get into lures. It's more environmentally friendly and there's way more satisfaction. Plus you generally catch better quality fish.

Not bagging bait fishos BTW. Just think luring is much more rewarding in estuaries.

[Leighton]

Dan23 wrote:

Yeah, skip bait fishing altogether and get into lures. It's more environmentally friendly and there's way more satisfaction. Plus you generally catch better quality fish.

Not bagging bait fishos BTW. Just think luring is much more rewarding in estuaries.

I agree, more rewarding but a costly addictive habbit

[Dan23]

he he,

gotta spend your money on something;)

[kevinchen19870316]

i catch 10 times more and better fish on bait though........lol, i am not good enough maybe.

[nigehey]

I feel the same way Kevin - I've read everything I can in detail (and listened to everyone's opinion on this forum) and I still can't get near the same size or quality of bream I can on bread/pudding in the river. I do OK with sp's and (on the forums advice) have invested heavily in ecogear sx40/48s etc but they're not quite as consistent (or cheap!!) as the bait.

[benno573]

i have spent many an hour mucking around with SP's and hb lures since moving to Brisbane 12 years ago, with limited success in the estuary and reasonable-good success across the rubble patches in the bay. being from gladstone, i was bought up throwing lures for threadies, barra, jacks, queenies, and trout, gt's and macks a bit further out so i'm not convinced it's all about my technique. i think it may be more that i'm not persistent enough and generally like to just sit on my lazy arse, crack a cold one, chillax and wait for the fish to come to me :laugh:

worst day's fishing beats the best day at work!!!!

[Feral]

Well I catch Bream ok on bait, and as bream would require a new family of lures for me, I am happy to use bait for them.

Hey - the only time of the year I specifically fish for them is in the classic so I can use them for livies! Might have to either find a new source of livies, or get bigger shark hooks if the sizes change with the new rules due out soon.

[Angus]

nigehey wrote:

I feel the same way Kevin - I've read everything I can in detail (and listened to everyone's opinion on this forum) and I still can't get near the same size or quality of bream I can on bread/pudding in the river. I do OK with sp's and (on the forums advice) have invested heavily in ecogear sx40/48s etc but they're not quite as consistent (or cheap!!) as the bait.

I think it also comes down to "why" you fish though. I dont go out fishing for bream for a feed. Purely for the sport of it. So id prefer to catch no fish on lures than to throw bait out and wait. I guess its mostly in the challenge and the mastery of the lure.

The good things is once you have mastered (or seemingly) so one lure, there are a whole lot more to try!!!

Angus

[Dan23]

Angus wrote:

nigehey wrote:

I feel the same way Kevin - I've read everything I can in detail (and listened to everyone's opinion on this forum) and I still can't get near the same size or quality of bream I can on bread/pudding in the river. I do OK with sp's and (on the forums advice) have invested heavily in ecogear sx40/48s etc but they're not quite as consistent (or cheap!!) as the bait.

I think it also comes down to "why" you fish though. I dont go out fishing for bream for a feed. Purely for the sport of it. So id prefer to catch no fish on lures than to throw bait out and wait. I guess its mostly in the challenge and the mastery of the lure.

The good things is once you have mastered (or seemingly) so one lure, there are a whole lot more to try!!!

Angus

My thoughts exactly:)

[kevinchen19870316]

so dan u agree that u catch more fish on bait?

but i have to agree that catching even 20 times less fish on lures is still more fun than fishing with bait.

[nigehey]

Yep, I don't disagree with the motivation for fishing being a determinant in what is being used. I love using sps and hbs for the fun of it. I guess sometimes I just have to prove to myself that there are actually fish there!

[jeff f]

lures are things you play with while you are waiting for your livey to go off

[pinkey]

Bait is the thing you use in the middle brisbane river.

[EMP]

Cowfish13 wrote:

The first thing could have been a Crab or a school of small fish (like Bream or Toadies)

What type of rod and line weight are you using at the moment?

You're certainly right about fishing:D Wait until you get into lure fishing, then collecting lures becomes addictive:D

I actually used a thick mono one would mistake for a rope. LOL.

So, lure fishing is more addictive? I wonder why...

[EMP]

Feral wrote:

Crabs!

Try a float next time.

All right, Feral, float next time. Great idea actually. Thanks, mate.

[EMP]

Dan23 wrote:

Yeah, skip bait fishing altogether and get into lures. It's more environmentally friendly and there's way more satisfaction. Plus you generally catch better quality fish.

Not bagging bait fishos BTW. Just think luring is much more rewarding in estuaries.

Is it really more environmentall-friendly? If it is, I would try to learn it more. But then, are lures biodegradable at all?

Thanks, Dan.

[EMP]

Captain Stabin wrote:

I agree, more rewarding but a costly addictive habbit

So, lures are dear, Cap?

[Leighton]

yes and no, just depends on how many you loose.

Lure Fishing is an evolution. The more you fish with success the more you spend on lures/plastics

[kevinchen19870316]

1,lure fishing seems to be more environ friendly but it's pretty hard to say. we donno how much pollution's done when tackle, HBs and plastics r made (esp. in china). i think pollution's way more of harm to the environment than collecting bait from the ocean. as far as i know, at least 80% of the lures r not biodegradable ( all HBs, most sps)

2, lure fishing's defi addictive but it is not more addictive than bait fishing. different ppl have differen view so one may think lure fishing's more addictive and the other feels opposite.

3, lures r not cheap. u can buy a ecogear sx48 with 18aud and lose it at 1st cast. as long as ur into lure fishing a lot, u'll find u spending over 100 a week on lures and 1000 a month for upgrading ur set ups. one day when u fish with a GLX and calais DC7 off a bass boat, u'll find urself spending more on fishing than ur wife spending on make ups and cloths.

[will]

i agree i had to stop going into fishing stores because i was buying lures hb/sp did not no when to stop . got way to dear :woohoo: my wife wolud go mad if she new.

[Dan23]

EMP wrote:

Dan23 wrote:

Yeah, skip bait fishing altogether and get into lures. It's more environmentally friendly and there's way more satisfaction. Plus you generally catch better quality fish.

Not bagging bait fishos BTW. Just think luring is much more rewarding in estuaries.

Is it really more environmentall-friendly? If it is, I would try to learn it more. But then, are lures biodegradable at all?

Thanks, Dan.

I suppose there are environmental issues with jigheads and lures getting stuck in fish's mouths or in snags etc. But that's the same with hooks and sinkers I guess. I was basically getting at you don't have to use lots of dead animals as bait when lure fishing. Also, with the exception of fish with large mouths like Barra and flatties, it would be rare a fish would swallow a lure down its throat as often happens when bait fishing.

Don't get me wrong I'm in no way against bait fishing. I did it for over 2 decades and still very rarely do, but I just think lure fishing is better and more rewarding. Depends what you want, to relax and stand a chance of catching a few fish then bait fishing is great. But if you're up for a challenge and don't mind spending the dollars lure fishing will teach you a lot more about feeding habits and the feeling you get when a fish smashes your lure IMO is far more enjoyable than catching fish on bait.

Once again just my opinion.

[will]

bait fishing is the way to go i believe if u want a nice relaxing day out on the water but lure fishing is a real hunting game , to fool the fish into biting something that is fake can be a real thrill and it does teach u more about the fish and its habitat/feeding habit etc . which is more friendly to the fish and enviroment well that i think is up to the individual.

[Leighton]

I guess its the difference between being " an Angler or a Dangler "

[Dan23]

Captain Stabin wrote:

I guess its the difference between being " an Aggler or a Dangler "

He he nice one:P

[pepe66]

I still bait fish all the time with varying levels of success but I have found that when I use a good quality hook my success rate increases regardless of the bait. I am trying to get into lures and SP's but they are a bit more challenging. I have kids with me most of the time so bait fishing is also the easier option and less expensive when losses are involved.

[will]

ur rite when kids r involved i think the bait is the way 2 go 4 sure. hell of a lot cheaper lol

[Cowfish13]

I think that for a beginner, bait fishing is the way to go. You will usually get more constant action. However, if you like challenging your self, once you get to understand how different fish behave, lures are definately worth trying. But it will be very hard for a beginner, to fishing altogether, to cosistently catch fish on lures.

Out in the bay, I bait fish all the time for bigger fish, but I like to throw around a plastic while I'm waiting for the bigger bait to go off.

This is all my opinion though:)

Enjoy your fishing no matter what style you choose is probably the best advice anyone can give:)

[EMP]

Ok, so it wasn't crabs afterall stealing my bait. It was a whole bunch of little breams!

I found this out today. These little breams nips my bait till it's all gone.

Is there any way to get around this problem? I mean, these little creatures are too tiny to be legally brought home. And I would definitely want to catch something bigger. Any ideas, anyone please??????

[Dan23]

Hey mate, where are you fishing? Anywhere is pretty tough at the moment with all the rain. Maybe try seeking out a less popular spot. If you want a guarantee of catching big bream wait a few months then head to Tweed or Brunswick heads and there'll be literally thousands of massive bream around to catch.

[Plastic Man]

mate you dont have to go to the tweed to get big bream just try the brisbane river pleaty of good bream in there

[fishyman]

you could try catching the tiddlers.

really small hook with a real small bait might work

[EMP]

fishyman wrote:

you could try catching the tiddlers.

really small hook with a real small bait might work

Hi mate,

I'd rather not catch those little ones if it's not legal. I mean the ones I caught were mostly around 10cms. I only caught two measuring more than 23cms.

[Dan23]

Plastic Man wrote:

mate you dont have to go to the tweed to get big bream just try the brisbane river pleaty of good bream in there

Judging by the bream from the classic that's true but I just don't like the thought of eating em from there. Probably would be fine I just only like eating fish from clear water.

[Plastic Man]

yeah i know what you mean i dont even eat fish but as has been talked about before the fish from the river are fine to eat

[fishyman]

ahh ok i thougth they were like 20cm lol.

yeah i spose just keep exploring until yo finf somewhere that holds good bream.

sunken wall has some stonkers

[Dan23]

fishyman wrote:

sunken wall has some stonkers

I didn't see any over 22cm come ashore Sunday:laugh: Must have missed em:huh:

[fishyman]

yeah ive caught a bigish one there about 33cm

but my cousin has caught alot of big ones around pinkenba area