queensland Rare bay day

[ellicat]

Just heading off for a day on the bay with the family.

Seems like forever since we've had a weekend day with a weather forecast like today's.

We have a few spots to farewell (maybe)

[Bommie]

have a good one

[brisbane_boy]

hope we see a good report ellicat . make sure u take some pics

[Angus]

Good luck mate.

[Dan23]

Yeah, hope you get a few monsters:cheer:

[ellicat]

Yes there were monsters.

Report coming soon.

[Decky]

lol

[Dan23]

ellicat wrote:

Yes there were monsters.

Report coming soon.

Saweeet:laugh:

[ellicat]

As expected we were greeted by a flat bay and blue sky.

Motored calmly away from Viccy Pt ramp and then put the throttle down. Took a bit to get her on the plane and motor wasn't fully revving as expected. Thought the kids must have beefed up a bit since the last trip. Waited for it to come good but it got slower as we passed Coochie. We were heading up around Peel and Goat. It got slower so common sense prevailed and I pulled up and tossed the anchor about a kilometre east (and slightly north) of Coochie.

There was immediate surface action around us from the bait fish, so I decided we'd better get some lines out and rig the rest. Sent out a pillie on my heavier setup (20lb suffix braid on a 4000 Daiwa) first and then some squid on Dan's and Shell's rigs and then set about rigging up Mitch's and my setups.

As usual Dan had a good hit within a minute. Got a bit of ground on it then GONE! Shell gets a good hit too. Same thing - GONE!. Bring them in - no rigs left. Ah ha - sharks it is then. Tied some 6 inch wire traces on and redeployed them and then went back to setting up the other rigs again. Then my heavy rig goes off. Missed it. Left it out while I tried to get the rigs done. (Geez it's tough being a deckie when the fish are biting) Dan got busted off a couple more times and Shell once more. Eventually got the rigs done and everyone was set.

All the rigs were dropper loops with a 6inch premade wire trace off them except for one unweighted floater pillie which a bird had a go at.

Mitch then hooked up and nearly had it in when Shell hooked up. Boated Mitch's for some snaps and set it free and released Shell's boatside after capturing a bit on the video camera. Two happy campers.

So then thought I'd better ring Coorparoo Marine for suggestions on the motor. (For the newer members I'm a bean counter with the ability to start the motor and fill the fuel tank;) ) James patiently talked me through making some adjustments under the cowl to the throttle. During the middle of this he kindly allowed me to hang up as my new ugly stick with my new Tierra 2000 on it screamed off.:woohoo: Figured it was another shark with a bit more size to it. It surface briefly about 50 metres away and I thought it was another whaler. Some time later after quite a few good runs against the "bream gear" up comes a shovelly about 4 1/2 foot or so. During his runs and struggles he had also managed to lassoo himself in Mitch's line which was now slack. Cut my leader and then watched Mitch have a good tussle with him too.

Had a bit more of a play with the throttle problem by myself then rang James back. Now here's a plug for great service. James put me on to Darren who invited me to meet him at his place after work to have a look at it. Which I did because I really wanted to be right to go to tomorrow's rally. They really are great blokes there.:cheer:

He and James had figured the problem while I was playing with the shovelly - a broken throttle linkage thingamajig.

Here's some pics -

Mitch with his first shark (little fella)

Shell's one about twice the size

Mine - Looked more promising in the distance

Giving the new setup a workout (14lb F/line)

You can see Mitch's line forming part of the tangle

Water looks good

My dog

[chubbstar]

Good one with the fishing mate.:woohoo:

Bummer about the boat though:(

See ya tomorrow;)

Jayson

[Cowfish13]

Cool little Sharks:)

Any idea what species they are?

[Malcolm]

Good day mate but bad luck about the boat.

Have you got a ride for tommorow yet as you are welcome with me, It's only a 12" tinie but it floats:)

[ellicat]

Cowfish, Not sure what type. They've got the same eyes and head shape as a Bronze whaler but I wouldn't put my lefty on that being the right species here. I think they're some kind of whaler though. I also know you love to research things, so I'm counting on you

haha.

Mal, I've accepted an offer from Faulked already mate. Thanks for the offer. I'm sure we'll catch up near NewsteadB) I'll have the mobi with me.

[Master Sardines]

nice report Brain, but i think i read it twice :blink:

[MichaelJ]

yeh good report but you rote most twice

[ellicat]

That's weird

Thought it looked too long.

I'll edit it later after dinner.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Must have nearly killed the dial up hey:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Master Sardines]

:laugh: smarty pants

[Feral]

Good news about the motor mate, only a throttle linkage - when you started describing those symptoms it sounds like she was seizing!

[reef_raider]

how is the tierra going for you ellicat? hope your likeing it

[Cowfish13]

ellicat wrote:

Cowfish, Not sure what type. They've got the same eyes and head shape as a Bronze whaler but I wouldn't put my lefty on that being the right species here. I think they're some kind of whaler though. I also know you love to research things, so I'm counting on you

Well, I've tried and I still can't find out what type it is:blink:

Where's Schultzy when you need him? (pretty much always:lol:)

[Rocket75]

Aside from the throttlewhatchimicallit incident I wish I was there. Thanks for the report.

Rocket

[Bommie]

sounds like a entertaining day, lucky it was only the linkage

[ellicat]

reef_raider wrote:

how is the tierra going for you ellicat? hope your likeing it

The Tierra's going greatmate - as good as a Sol I reckon;) . The shovelly gave it a pretty decent workout with the 14lb spool on. I've put it on an Ugly 3-6kg. I found this rod to be the best colour match:laugh:

Feral, It certainly was good news haha. I didn't think it was siezing though - when out of gear I could "rev it's titsoff" (That's the mechanics term:P )

Rocket, I could have wished for you to be there too - I may have needed someone to row me and the family home:woohoo: :laugh: :silly:

[rumrunner]

that would have been the stator advance linkage!(very ezy fix) thay are good blokes there! michael has helped me a few times now!

sounds like a fun day in the bay mate, i was only a few hundred metres from you motoring around in my boat, following a dark gray 18ft runnabout. did ya see us? i didnt see you otherwise i would have pulled up alongside for a chin wag!

we fished the peel wreck (good feed of moses) and the n/e rocks off coochie! (sharks aswell)

funney thing! we were pulling up a 30cm moses when all of a sudden a bird swallowed it whole tail first and was trying to take the line aswell! the leader finaly gave up! so if catching birds then use more then a 8lb leader:laugh:

ps . heading out with shortie this weekend if you would like to join in?

cheers Ian.

[ellicat]

I've got no idea what the busted linkage is called.

It might be an easy fix in the workshop with a new part:P It would require someone with a very skinny hand and long fingers to do it without pulling bits off. A bit of threaded plastic that holds a metal screw bit broke into pieces.

There were fun parts to the day, but overall I didn't rate it highly:(

Unlike most days on the water I didn't look at all nearby boats searching for that sticker :laugh: Didn't see anybody frolicking with a tube. I spent the day rigging tackle for the others, catching my own or just looking at the motor with my head tilted to one side:laugh:

The forecast 3m swell and a backlog of work means I'll have to decline the offer for this weekend sorry. Thanks for the offer though - keep me on the list;)

There were a few birds working the area. Could have been such a good day :pinch: [img size=496]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/breakdown_point.jpg

[benno573]

regarding species - the one your young fella is holding is almost definately a dusky whaler (bull shark). easily distinguished (how's the spelling?? ) by the dark tailing edge of all the fins. the one in the water i would hazard a guess at a bronzie - too slender to be a bullie and too silver. great day out for the tin lids by the looks of it!!!

[ellicat]

Thanks for your observations benno. I think the wife's was a little bronzie. On the other one I'm sorry to disagree:unsure: but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a bully (river whaler). I base this on the eyes.

Here are some Bronzie's eyes (on their side)

Yep the kids had a good one even though it was cut well short and we didn't get to our intended destination :pinch:

[img size=353]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/sharkeyes_AFO-fa0f0b2a3bf523aef78aa4cc9f02c5f4.JPG

[ellicat]

And here's some bully's eyes.

The one from Saturday had the vertical cat-like pupils [img size=489]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/Jindalee_Bullie_eyes-1c697d6ad9cf8a3ec775bb74f5de37a9.JPG

[nigehey]

Hey, I just realised that I was in the exact same spot - but being a newcomer I'm not trained to look out for stickers etc. I was in a 28ft Mustang (not the best fishing platform) flicking plastics near the wreck off the bow...got pike, trevs, sweetlip and an endless number of undersized squire.

[benno573]

ok - here's what my paper i wrote on the shark species of moreton bay tells me (had to do some serious digging to find this one!!!)

"the river whaler (insert big name here) or bull shark, differs from the dusky whaler (insert big name here) in two easily definable ways. the river whaler has pelvic fins which are shorter than the pectoral and are slightly tinted around the edges with dark brown or black. the eyes of a bullshark are also distinctively darker in colour and the pupil less defined than those of the dusky whaler. the dusky whaler has similar fin colouration put the pelvic fins are of a similar size to the pectoral and the eyes have a distinctly defined pupil"

it's been that long i forgot there is two different species. sucks when you realise you aren't that young anymore :laugh: never thought i would find a use for something i did at uni but there you go!!! i may be able to provide you with the rest if i can scan it and you want a read.

p.s. gross pics!!!:silly:

[ellicat]

So dusky whaler it is then (??)

[ellicat]

nigehey wrote:

Hey, I just realised that I was in the exact same spot - but being a newcomer I'm not trained to look out for stickers etc. I was in a 28ft Mustang (not the best fishing platform) flicking plastics near the wreck off the bow...got pike, trevs, sweetlip and an endless number of undersized squire.

Didn't see you mate, but I was only there for a while and somewhat occupied with other stufff:S

This is what you will learn to lookout for;) :laugh: [img size=480]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/AFO_Bow.JPG

[ellicat]

benno573 wrote:

ok - here's what my paper i wrote on the shark species of moreton bay tells me (had to do some serious digging to find this one!!!)

"the river whaler (insert big name here) or bull shark, differs from the dusky whaler (insert big name here) in two easily definable ways. the river whaler has pelvic fins which are shorter than the pectoral and are slightly tinted around the edges with dark brown or black. the eyes of a bullshark are also distinctively darker in colour and the pupil less defined than those of the dusky whaler. the dusky whaler has similar fin colouration put the pelvic fins are of a similar size to the pectoral and the eyes have a distinctly defined pupil"

it's been that long i forgot there is two different species. sucks when you realise you aren't that young anymore :laugh: never thought i would find a use for something i did at uni but there you go!!! i may be able to provide you with the rest if i can scan it and you want a read.

p.s. gross pics!!!:silly:

Yes please benno - I'd love a copy of that. (As long as you passed haha:P :laugh: )

Funny the stuff you still have a use for....I still use algebra:blink: As far as getting old goes - I don't recognise myself in pics sometimes...pretty sad really :pinch:

[ellicat]

ellicat wrote:

I've got no idea what the busted linkage is called.

It might be an easy fix in the workshop with a new part:P It would require someone with a very skinny hand and long fingers to do it without pulling bits off. A bit of threaded plastic that holds a metal screw bit broke into pieces.

Here's the bit that broke rumrunner. [img size=327]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/1-491d0d93aa1e6b1692daecea8ba9d0fa.JPG

[ellicat]

Different view.

It's all good now though.

Replacement part $25.

How much I would have paid for it not to break that day - priceless;) :whistle: [img size=402]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/3-621b2cc096cc70e7597791d4bd98f050.JPG

[benno573]

always the way.. i had a spark plug go just off the cape, drove all the way back a cylinder down. replacement part - $15. i now carry a couple of spares...

by the way... the only way i can get the report on the computer is as a bunch of "photos" - in pdf the photos don't come out at all. even zipped and compressed to hell it is about 40mb coz there is quite a few pictorials and it is 60 pages long. as soon as i figure out how to make it even smaller it will be on it's way!!!

[ellicat]

Don't get too hung up with it mate. A burn to cd might do the trick. We'll just have to catch up one day to swap the info and reward;)

[Angus]

Hey guys, River Whalers more commonly called Bull Sharks (Carcharhinus leucas) tend to have more of a, for lack of a better descriptive word, "Pit Bull" or "Stocky" body.

Dusky Whalers (Charcharhinus obscurus), are very similar yet slightly more streamlined looking or "pointier".

Hope that helps a little.

I find this discription a little easier than fin observations and teeth.

Angus

[benno573]

Angus wrote:

Hey guys, River Whalers more commonly called Bull Sharks (Carcharhinus leucas) tend to have more of a, for lack of a better descriptive word, "Pit Bull" or "Stocky" body.

Dusky Whalers (Charcharhinus obscurus), are very similar yet slightly more streamlined looking or "pointier".

Hope that helps a little.

I find this discription a little easier than fin observations and teeth.

Angus

you call that scientific??? lol!! :laugh: they all taste the same anyway! :laugh: the only two common whalers in bris that are immediately and unmistakably distinguishable are bronzies and lemon sharks. the rest are just "bullies" to me!! unfortunately that didn't get me past uni so had to go the whole hog... what you say is spot on tho.

the biggest actual difference is river whalers/bullies are "euryhaline" (spelling will be well wrong) coz they have specially designed kidneys to cope with salt and true fresh water environments (above the tidal zone). all the others can't do this. so all you really need to do if you catch a shark is throw it into a tub of fresh water you have conveniently located in your boat, if it lives, it is a bullie, if not, it wasn't. if all else fails, just have another beer. :laugh: