Hfisho77

what an awesome post :cheer: just thought I would add my 2 cents. I agree that the best place to find longies and the like is where there is somewhere for them to round up bait against, e.g reef edges, cliff faces, drop offs, man-made structure etc. Unlike some of the others, I use slugs alot of the time mainly because of the fact that they cast a mile so you don't have to get as close to the school. This means the tuna are less likely to spook and will stay up for longer giving you a chance to get more casts in the vicinity of the school. The best 'all rounder' size for me is around the 14g mark. As Terry said gillies baitfish and R2S sea rocks are the top brands but the trebles do need changing for any decent sized fish. In saying that, plastics are a lot more fun and are also really effective. Anything transparent is definitely the go to 'match the hatch', but when all else fails, it’s sometimes a good idea to chuck out something a bit different and this can entice a reaction bite. Something like a 5-7 inch plastic in a wicked colour such as bright orange or green has worked for me. Really keen to get into the longies on the plastics more often and get my first one in the bay!! :side:

here's my quiver.. from bream to GT gear

My preference is the exact opposite with the jig heads lol - but we all have our own favourites

what an awesome post :cheer: just thought I would add my 2 cents. I agree that the best place to find longies and the like is where there is somewhere for them to round up bait against, e.g reef edges, cliff faces, drop offs, man-made structure etc. Unlike some of the others, I use slugs alot of the time mainly because of the fact that they cast a mile so you don't have to get as close to the school. This means the tuna are less likely to spook and will stay up for longer giving you a chance to get more casts in the vicinity of the school. The best 'all rounder' size for me is around the 14g mark. As Terry said gillies baitfish and R2S sea rocks are the top brands but the trebles do need changing for any decent sized fish. In saying that, plastics are a lot more fun and are also really effective. Anything transparent is definitely the go to 'match the hatch', but when all else fails, it’s sometimes a good idea to chuck out something a bit different and this can entice a reaction bite. Something like a 5-7 inch plastic in a wicked colour such as bright orange or green has worked for me. Really keen to get into the longies on the plastics more often and get my first one in the bay!! :side:

OK... With the upcoming monthly social events the idea was thrown out there that an article be written up prior to the event that could be made into a FrontPage article for all to see detailing the species for that month and a sort of “How To” on catching them.  This would enable people that are keen on chasing the nominated species an insight on fishing for them and might offer them a few tips or point them in the right direction.



Now first up I’m not necessarily to best qualified nor have I caught the most Long tail Tuna in Moreton Bay but I have chased them in boats and a yaks with success and thought I could write up an article on chasing these speedsters that might help a few other people on the site.  Feel free to add to this anything that has helped you and nothing I put down is given law on catching Longies so please don’t shoot me down for having a go.
 
Longtail Tuna are a member of the Tuna family  (duh!) that extend from the tip of Cape York right down to south of Sydney and are a seasonal fish that start entering Moreton Bay around Easter every year.  The fish usually travel down the coast and the reports from the Hervey Bay are usually a good indicator on how our season will fare here.  Size can vary quite a bit from year to year with some years the average fish are only 8kg, other years the average size could be around 15kg it varies from season to season.  They are a fantastic sports fish that can be taken on a variety of methods and also fare well on the plate especially for those who enjoy Sushimi.  Below I’ll brake it down into different sections and also the main focus will be using plastics as I have no idea about catching them on bait so I'll leave that up to someone else to add if they so desire.

Time of Day and Tides
 
Put simply time of day doesn't really matter a whole lot for Tuna as they are more of a gentleman’s hours fish meaning you don’t have to be up at sparrows fart to catch them, the middle of the day in the bright sun is as good a time as any.  Tide is a different story as in the bay most people looking for Longies will opt to fish an outgoing tide and like most fish “no run means no fun” this applies to Tuna as well as the tide will help them ball the bait up.
 
Locations
 
First things first for Longies there's no spot x they can  turn up anywhere in the bay, right from the top end of Bribie and as far south as near Coochie.  Generally speaking fish in the northern part of the bay will of a bigger average size than those you encounter in the southern half of the bay but the odd bigger models can still turn up anywhere.  Some of the more well know spots for chasing them would be places like The Four Beacons, Mud Island, Curtin Reef, Pearl Channel, The Sand Hills,  Spitfire Channel, Harries, Rainbow Channel, Rous Channel and the waters all around Peel Island.  Also when they're thick in the bay you don’t have to travel far as they can be quite often found within close range of spots like Wello and Cleveland Point so don’t feel you need to travel to the other side of the bay to catch one. 
 
Finding The Fish
 
Birds, birds and birds are your best friend when locating fish also word of mouth on where they're being caught is not to be overlooked because if there's constant reports of fish coming in from north of Peel than chances are if you fish north of Peel for long enough you'll find them.  Longies can vary in the size of the school from solo fish through to bigger schools of thirty or more generally speaking they don’t hang in as large a schools as say Mac Tuna.  When driving around the bay keep a constant eye out for birds and try and see what they're seeing, if there's 50 birds diving in one spot with a lot of commotion going on chances are there's some Tuna there, but it's not always that obvious with sometimes a single bird being the only giveaway to the location of the fish.  Keep an eye on any bird that is constantly dipping in one spot if he flutters to maintain position in one spot chances are there's something below him whether it be the bait the bird is after or the Tuna you're after.  Also Tuna tend to chase the bait fish up onto the edges of sandbanks throughout the bay especially in the areas north of Peel up towards Harries, so if you do find them fire a cast there direction and see what happens.  Another thing to remember when trying to catch Tuna is DO NOT just drive up at speed cut the motor and try to catch them that way sure it might work on occasions but in the end most of the time the fish will shut down not to be seen again.  Instead the best approach although difficult is to try and watch the travelling direction of the fish and get in front of them allowing them to come to you.  It can be hard at times when they're always changing directions but this way the fish will stay up longer and multiple casts can be made at one school of fish.
 
Rods, Reels and Line
 
Rod and reel choice can vary quite a lot as they can be landed on anything from a 2-4kg Bream setup right through to heavier spin gear.  They don’t fight dirty and a good drag and plenty of line is all that's required to land one but bear in mind that fishing too light will result in you having to drive after the fish and increase your chances of getting sharked.  Being this article is geared more towards the plastics style of fish my preference for a Tuna rod would be something in the 7 foot 6-10kg range and a 4000 size reel to suit, brand is not important  and all companies make gear that cover these specs.  A rod with a softer tip to throw the lure is important to achieve a greater distance if the fish are easily spooked and a strong butt section on the rod to lift them when they circle below the boat is another vital quality to look for in a rod.  I personally use a LuckyCraft Light Drop Shot 3-10kg with a Stradic CI4 4000 and have found it more than capable on most bay Tuna.  Line wise 20lb braid would be the sweet spot for in the bay and if you used the combo offshore as well 30lb would also be suitable, 10lb would do the job most of the time also but it gets a bit tedious trying to lift the fish on lighter gear.  Leaders wise Flurocarbon is the go and generally speaking the shallower the water the fish are found in the lighter the leader needs to be.  In the southern bay you could go as low a 14lb leader and be alright but as you head towards the northern half of the bay 30lb would be a better choice as you're more likely to come across other fish like Cobia, Kingfish and Macs.
Lures
 
Now that you've found some fish and have the rod and reel in your hand you need something to actually throw at the fish and get a strike.  Match the hatch is what most people work by and the same goes for Longies, having said that Longies are nowhere near as fussier fish as Mac Tuna can be and as such they take a large variety of plastics and metals.  In the bay a lot of the fish are feeding on Hardy Heads and a small 3” plastics in the clearer to opaque varieties is a good place to start, most companies make plastics that suit with brands like Zooms and Bass Assassin through to Berkely and Squidgies all having suitable styles and colours.  Jerkbait/forktail minnow styles are probably the best as they represent the baitfish better but they can also be caught on other weird and wonderful styles as well so do be afraid to throw out what's in your tackle box.  Jigheads need to be strong and 3/8-1/2oz is probably the best weight as any lighter and you wont cast the distance any heavier and the lure will sink straight past the fishes mouth, hook size just needs to match the plastic you're using.  Also ensure the hooks are heavy wire in what ever brand you use aas light wire hooks wont last long on heavier drag settings.


Technique
 
I have to be honest I’ve not found any technique to be more successful than any other as most of the time when the lure lands in the right spot it's picked up without any retrieve necessary.  But unlike metals a fast wind isn't really needed as you want the lure in front of the fish for as long as possible and I tend to find a medium twitching retrieve on the lure seems to do the job.  In the end just mix it up as one thing works on one school of fish but not the other.  Also let it sink through the school and see what might be beneath it.  Another trick is whilst fishing have a lightly weighted plastic dead-sticking out the back of the boat as I know of one person using this technique and it has proven to be quite successful for him.
 
Landing The Fish
All that's required to land the fish is patience as they wont run for any reefs and they don’t have any teeth to bite you off, you just need to survive the initial run and take it from there, the hardest past of the fight is when the fish is below the boat and circling as they can prove to be quite difficult to lift from this position.  The trick here is to just motor off the fish and try and get it arching up on the surface also try and work against the fishes direction of travel say if he's swimming away from you try to work the rod the other way so that you're always trying to turn the fishes head.  All that’s needed now is to net or gaff the fish and you're done.


Summary
 
I hope this is of help to at least one person and that you're able to score your first Longie from it.  At the end of the day you just need to be on the water and watching what's going on as most people just drive past good fish not knowing they're there.  There will be days where none of the above works and other days where it all falls into place and that's the thing with Tuna as they are so unpredictable and for the yakkers out there Longies are certainly catch-able from a yak in the bay you just need to be a little smarter about chasing them and be prepared to paddle but they're worth it in the end.  Now the wait begins for them to start showing up in numbers
 
Cheers
 
Mark

Nah i reckon he is using 6lb braid with those silly plastic lures

Maybe you should take up pottery instead, fishing doesn't seem to be your thing. Then again maybe pottery isn't either as you need patience for both.

This is only speaking from personal opinion but I would like this forum to not head in the direction I have seen other forums go down the track of. For some people like my self who works long hours in a stressful job coming home and reading this forum is a release from the day to day grind, if you don't get a chance to get out fishing as often as some people are lucky enough to do.

You get on and read about other experiences that other members have had at the sport that we all love so much. You can relate to their excitement or disappointment as you share the same dreams. What causes the downwards spiral of these forums is negativity and a whole lot of keyboard cowboy syndrome. This has a negative affect on the entire site, at first some of these threads may seem funny but can turn nasty very quickly. This promotes people not wanting to report any more and even worse the potential loss of sponsorship which in turns pays for the site that we all enjoy. 98% of posts on this site are of a positive or fun making gesture but as usual in life a minority can wreck it for all.

The first thing people will reply to this post is that this is a free country, and it is an open forum and people can post what they want, but do some of these things really needed to go so far. If everyone just thought, would I say it to their face, maybe a whole lot of the crap would not even make it onto the forum. If a post gets heated put a time out on the member or something, I am pretty sure some of the men in blue will vouch that if you chuck someone into the courthouse for the night, with maybe an accidental spraying with the fire hose they are a whole lot calmer (and sober) in the morning.

This is not my forum, I do not run this forum or have any say in it, I do not believe that my opinion will be that of 100% or even 50% of people that read this but as the first arguement that will be written opposing my opinion will be is that it is an open forum. I just believe that if every one thought about why they joined the forum for originally (fishing) not whinging and bitching that maybe we might even make this forum even better than it already is.

If enough people stop reporting, not going to socials or comps, no new sponsorship there will be no forum. It might sound over the top or dramatic but it can happen and has. Once again this is only my opinion, someone who loves to read about other peoples fishing related adventure or reporting on my own.

Thankyou for reading

Andrew

Hi all

bit of a late report as iv been away since I got back
headed up the reef for our annual north west island trip, after a shocker on the fish front and bad weather last year we were hoping there would be some more fish around this year, headed up to Gladstone all loaded up on boxing day got up there bout 2pm packed the stuff into the crates, loaded the barge and settled for a sleep before the 3am departure.

Day 1
Arrived at the island about 8:30am dropped the boat off the barge and made our way in to the island, anchored the boat and went to find a campsite after that we unpacked the barge and spent most of the day setting up the campsite





Day2
With the weather meant to deteriorate in the next couple of days we headed out to see what was around. Went for a shoot at some old mark to get some bait ended up with two trout, missed a few bigger ones and got a trev and rubber lip sweet lip for bait.



Day3
Headed out for look at another spearing mark, wasn’t much around only got two trout but once we saw a hammerhead shark bout 3m long one to many times haha we headed back to the boat and went to some fishing marks, sounded round found a few good shows ended up with four red throats and a couple of tuskies for dinner








Day4
The weather yet to get nasty and myself dying to shoot a decent trout we headed out to mark wear we got a couple the first day. Arrived there, suited up and jumped in the vis was pretty good, few trout swimming round in the end I managed three trout in the mid mid to high 40’s with the old man missing everything he shot at, we jumped back in the boat and found a mark on the GPS bout 2ks up the reef and thought we would check it out. We arrived there, I jumped in with dad deciding to just line fish while i sused out the area, the first thing I saw was a border line trout sitting mid water watching me as I load my gun and paddle away from the boat, saw a couple a bigger ones but they were very flighty and took off befor I could get close enough. Stared to head back towards the boat when I noticed dad was hooked up rushed over to find some random little reef fish getting pulled towards the surface but was amazed to see four easy legal trout sitting on the bottom watching this happen, told dad and that was enough encouragement to get in the water I went down and took a shot at one of them but missed and they all took off so both of us the paddled along the reef a bit we then saw a decent trout sitting under a piece of plate so dad went down to have a shot and actually hit it we both surfed and put the fish in the float by the time we reloaded and got sorted it seemed like every trout on the reef had come to see what we were doing at one count there were at least 9 trout sitting with in 10m of us we couldn’t believe I eyes, I didn’t know which one to shoot haha so we got a few more but with the current picking up we had to make way back to the boat along the way dad spotted a very nice trout he took a dive but it started to swim off before he could take a shot so he surfaced and the trout stopped so I dived down and it just looked as I lined it took my shot GOT HIM!!!!!! Good way to finish off still with calm seas we headed back very pleased with our haul.








Day 5
the winds picked up with nothing much happening got a few dart off the beach and lost half my line on ma 1-3 to a golden trev in the reef

Day 6
The weather looking better dad and I decided to take the 15k run to Douglas shoal (WORST IDEA) wasn’t a really bad run out but the weather went from average to BADD and myself getting sea sick for the first time on the trip we got to nice tuskies and headed back we sat on 8kts all the way back with bout 2m swell and waves breaking all over the place it was good to get into the lea of the island where the swell was almost none so we then headed up the the trout spot from the other day, wasn’t much there and vis wasn’t that good we ended up with two trout and a purple cod this was when the plague of the purple cod started




Day 7
Weather a bit better and the rest of the fam was keen for a fish so headed out to a reef mark just off the island, a little bumpy but still alright got a another feed of tuskie and two squid that popped up at the back of the boat. After a couple of hours every body had enough so we dropped them off and me and dad headed up to the fish tail (top end of the reef) for a dive got up there and jumped in to find a fair bit of current so only got one purple cod and three trout jumped out and after some discussion decided to have a troll round the deep bomies put the green hydro magnum out went bout 100m before ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (was hopping for a mackerel of some sort) quick fight and up come a solid purple cod so in the esky and back out with the lure went bout 50m before hooked up again, another purple cod and then another after that so we got three purple cod on the troll which was a first for us haha with the wind and swell dying it was a quick run at 35kt back to the island to start filleting




Day 8
We had more then enough fish in the fridge for dinner we headed out in search of trout for the freezer with no wind and swell we headed round to the ocean side the vise was amazing we were just ideling along in bout 25ft looking for bommies and then u would see two trout sitting on the top of the bommies from the surface so we just dropped the anchor jumped in dad managed a very nice fish which was only 2cm bigger then mine going 59 grr haha but after that most of then were in the mid 40’s so ended up with 9, a good effort for the last day










Day 9
Headed out on the morning high to feed the sharks come back and started the big pack up for departure the next day

Day 10
Slept on the beach for the night loaded the barge and boats without hassle and was under way and heading for Gladstone by bout 8:30am was a good run back got to Gladstone bout 2pm loaded the car and left Gladstone bout 4pm with a freezer full of fish
All in all was a very good trip heaps of fish and decent weather

Thanks for reading
Joel

aidan there are a few verieties of threadfin found in aussie waters and the one we get here is the king threadfin salmon or known from bunderberg south as the burnett salmon it grows to 30kg some guys from the site have got them in the river to 18kg
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