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As someone who keeps fish in aquaria, and have done for 25 years, I can tell you this is definitely NOT illegal. This fish looks healthy, a fine specimen, and the tank also looks healthy - clear water, appropriate equipment in use, etc etc.
HOWEVER - it is common to see large fish in display aquaria like this, and they can, and do, out-grow their tanks. If large fish are kept in a glass box that is too small, they will suffer more disease, shorter lifespan and the question of cruelty certainly does (and should) come up.
Now, how big is this tank? If the notice about "Please do not touch the glass ..." is printed on A4 paper (my assumption), then this tank is actually 8 FT long, which is quite a decent sized tank. (In a large warehouse space, size of tank can be deceptively large.) The depth of the tank (water height) is 2.5 FT. Most (but certainly not all) tanks are square if you look them on the end, so this would be 2.5 FT wide also, or about 75 cms. In the photo you posted, it is rather hard to see, but it could potentially be wider, e.g. 3 ft or 90cms, or even more.
The criterion for tank size in this sort of situation is making sure the fish has plenty of room to turn around. A common rule of thumb is that the width of the tank is at least twice the length of the biggest fish. It is usually the width of the tank, rather than the length, that violates the guidelines on fishkeeping. With my assumptions above, for a 50cms fish, this tank is on or just below the guidelines, so it is starting to outgrow this tank. Fish grow very slowly as they age, so it could be a number of years before it becomes a serious issue.
But this example is very far from the worst I've seen, and may even still (just) meet guidelines. Note these are guidelines for healthy fishkeeping and NOT laws.
- rayke1938, AUS-BNE-FISHO, Drop Bear and 2 others
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Hi Hamish,
Yes I can see this last picture, and the final video on the main post. None of the earlier pics though.
I really appreciate your reports showing your honest success rate with shore-based fishing. Across 9 sessions, with multiple lines each time, you only got 1 bream and a couple of perch (plus undesirables like catties and eels). Still more that I get!!
While I don't doubt the veracity of reports on here where blokes catch a dozen beautiful fish to take home (from a boat, always), this does not seem to be the norm, either on boats or the shore. Reports like yours give a much better idea of what to expect. Good on you for taking the time to report.
Cheers
- kmcrosby78, Angry51 and AUS-BNE-FISHO
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Thanks Hamish.
I live in Parkinson, near Browns Plains. So it's 45 minutes to an hour each way to any fishing spot, including the river. More if I gauge wrong and get stuck in traffic. I've worked from home for 25 years, and recently discovered I don't really know when/where the traffic gets congested around much of the place.
Haven't had a chance to get out again yet, but I will have another crack soon.
Cheers,
Michael
- Drop Bear and AUS-BNE-FISHO
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Some excellent tips, many thanks. I will follow up on some of these at least. Not sure how I'll go with the live shrimp though.
The trip this week was originally scheduled for first thing in the morning, but then her ladyship invited herself along, and then her sisters got in on it, and then the time moved to 12 noon. There's no winning that argument, so I just went along, not expecting to catch anything at that time of day. What can you do. I'll just have to schedule another trip and ban anyone tagging along.
I'm aware of the SIPS, and have sorted the legal side of it.
- Drop Bear, Angry51, AUS-BNE-FISHO and 1 other
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Thanks Kat. I won't give up just yet - but it is quite frustrating, especially when there are 10 other anglers there as well and they are also not catching anything. So it's not simply my own lack of skill, some of those others were veterans.
Of course on a boat fishing would be better, but I'm not expecting or even wanting to catch trophy fish, or huge numbers. Just one or two legal sized fish, most trips would be very satisfying.
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Sounds excellent. I was at Wyaralong yesterday, but it was primarily for a picnic with the ladies (wife & her sisters). Mid afternoon, but I gave it a crack anyway, just from the bank. Usual story, didn't get a bite.
I've only taken up fishing a couple of weeks ago, strictly land based (for the foreseeable future anyway), and on 9 trips to various spots on Moreton Bay and Wyaralong have only managed a dozen (seriously) undersized fish. Zero legal sized. The last 4 trips haven't even had a bite.
Would love to hear more reports of land-based trips, just to prove that it is actually possible to catch something land-based!!
Help Murray cod pet at garden world, is it ok?
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Hard to know indeed. Any glass box is nothing like the Murray River. Then again - fish are not the brightest, in the tank they get regular meals, clean water, no predators - as Junky pointed out, it might be better off in the tank. Certainly the life expectancy of fish in tanks exceeds that in the wild for most species. This would be a captive bred fish, so wouldn't know any different.
They can still get agitated at times, as they do look out through the glass and notice what is going on in the wider world. My fish go nuts when I walk into the room with their food container, especially the African cichlids - they can spot the food container from nearly 10 meters away. At the right time of day. I've tested this, and without the food container, they don't behave like that.
Then, there may be other things that irritate the fish - or excite the fish (can be hard to tell the difference also). Like people banging on the glass, or dinner time approaching. Impossible to know from a single visit, you'd need to monitor the fish behaviour over several days.