Bob9863

Unfortunately they don't seem to sell any strong enough fo me, I need a minimum of 50lbs.

That YGK is great stuff, they have a few good ultra thin braids out, but I've settled on Shimano's grappler. I get mine from anaconda, it's usually $74 or something like that but I always price match and get it for $60-$62.
 

I've generally had brilliant success with braid, it's got its advantages and it's disadvantages just like mono.
Mono's advantages are it's less visible, it's stretch reduces shock and it's much more abrasion resistant.
Braids advantages are it's thinner so you fit more line on the reel, it's lack of stretch means it's easier to set the hook, there's much much more sensitivity between the rod and the lure, especially important when fishing soft plastics and it's got much more casting distance.
If I was to spool my O/S reels for what I fish for I'd need at least 30lb braid, I would only get 75m on my spool and that would be next to useless when a big fish runs. My only other option is use a much bigger reel, I don't want to do that as it makes the rod to heavy to cast all day.
There's definitely times when either will be better then the other, but you really have to choose what's going to be best for what you use it for the majority of the time.

The only advantage I see to thicker line is if a fish wraps it around a snag, but in my experience nothing helps in that situation. 
Thick mono is the best option for situations like that, but it really affects both your casting distance anfmd how a lure performs in the water.

I've generally had brilliant success with braid, it's got its advantages and it's disadvantages just like mono.
Mono's advantages are it's less visible, it's stretch reduces shock and it's much more abrasion resistant.
Braids advantages are it's thinner so you fit more line on the reel, it's lack of stretch means it's easier to set the hook, there's much much more sensitivity between the rod and the lure, especially important when fishing soft plastics and it's got much more casting distance.
If I was to spool my O/S reels for what I fish for I'd need at least 30lb braid, I would only get 75m on my spool and that would be next to useless when a big fish runs. My only other option is use a much bigger reel, I don't want to do that as it makes the rod to heavy to cast all day.
There's definitely times when either will be better then the other, but you really have to choose what's going to be best for what you use it for the majority of the time.

I've generally had brilliant success with braid, it's got its advantages and it's disadvantages just like mono.
Mono's advantages are it's less visible, it's stretch reduces shock and it's much more abrasion resistant.
Braids advantages are it's thinner so you fit more line on the reel, it's lack of stretch means it's easier to set the hook, there's much much more sensitivity between the rod and the lure, especially important when fishing soft plastics and it's got much more casting distance.
If I was to spool my O/S reels for what I fish for I'd need at least 30lb braid, I would only get 75m on my spool and that would be next to useless when a big fish runs. My only other option is use a much bigger reel, I don't want to do that as it makes the rod to heavy to cast all day.
There's definitely times when either will be better then the other, but you really have to choose what's going to be best for what you use it for the majority of the time.

The only advantage I see to thicker line is if a fish wraps it around a snag, but in my experience nothing helps in that situation. 
Thick mono is the best option for situations like that, but it really affects both your casting distance anfmd how a lure performs in the water.

The only advantage I see to thicker line is if a fish wraps it around a snag, but in my experience nothing helps in that situation. 
Thick mono is the best option for situations like that, but it really affects both your casting distance anfmd how a lure performs in the water.

The only advantage I see to thicker line is if a fish wraps it around a snag, but in my experience nothing helps in that situation. 
Thick mono is the best option for situations like that, but it really affects both your casting distance anfmd how a lure performs in the water.

I've tried spooling dry, and in a tub of water, I crank the drag up, with the reel on the heaviest rod I have, hold the line with a glove on my hand and hold it so tight I can only crank a half turn at a time.
You can't put it on tighter without breaking the rod or the reel, it feels like a solid section of pvc pipe is on the spool when I'm done.
So that's definitely not the issue.
I really don't think you should have to spend $560 on a machine like this just to spool your own reels at home.
https://www.ottostackleworld.com.au/busted-fishing-line-winder-bf-216-for-overhead-fis?gad_source=4&gclid=CjwKCAjw48-vBhBbEiwAzqrZVO1DqhejsZtRomizIh3OX9Mrzne84F0ZKdQBYozaw9AYgzVQn73KAxoCFZsQAvD_BwE

I've tried spooling dry, and in a tub of water, I crank the drag up, with the reel on the heaviest rod I have, hold the line with a glove on my hand and hold it so tight I can only crank a half turn at a time.
You can't put it on tighter without breaking the rod or the reel, it feels like a solid section of pvc pipe is on the spool when I'm done.
So that's definitely not the issue.
I really don't think you should have to spend $560 on a machine like this just to spool your own reels at home.
https://www.ottostackleworld.com.au/busted-fishing-line-winder-bf-216-for-overhead-fis?gad_source=4&gclid=CjwKCAjw48-vBhBbEiwAzqrZVO1DqhejsZtRomizIh3OX9Mrzne84F0ZKdQBYozaw9AYgzVQn73KAxoCFZsQAvD_BwE

I used shimano Grappler and kairiki braid for my testing, so the fault is 100% with shimano.
Now I only need 150m of of the .23 59.5lb Grapler on my reels for what I want them for so it's not a problem for me, but it's still BS. There's no legitimate reason to have 27% less line capasity then advertised. Now I absolutely love my Stella reels, and for finesse fishing there's not many that compare with the Stella, but I should be able to fit around 230m of line on that reel, not 180m.
50m of line can make a huge difference when fishing light tackle on big fish.

I used shimano Grappler and kairiki braid for my testing, so the fault is 100% with shimano.
Now I only need 150m of of the .23 59.5lb Grapler on my reels for what I want them for so it's not a problem for me, but it's still BS. There's no legitimate reason to have 27% less line capasity then advertised. Now I absolutely love my Stella reels, and for finesse fishing there's not many that compare with the Stella, but I should be able to fit around 230m of line on that reel, not 180m.
50m of line can make a huge difference when fishing light tackle on big fish.

I've been re-spooling my Stella's and thunnus reels and the actual line capasity compared to what's written on the reel is massively smaller.
Why do they BS so much about their capasity, when they could just make the spools deeper and store what they claim?
Here's my examples.
Shimano Stella SW 4000xg, claimed spool capacity 180m of .30mm, actual capacity 180m of .23mm
Shimano Stella C5000XG , claimed spool capacity 175m of  35mm, actual capasity 180m of .23mm, 135m of .27mm
Shimano Thunnus 8000 Ci4, claimed capasity 340m of .35mm, actual capacity 285m of. 28mm
That's a massive massive difference in line capasity, there's no way on earth to put the line on the spool that they claim, so why do they false advertise and more importantly why do they get away with it?
It's not like I guess the capacity either, I actually made up a yard stick of sorts to check my measurements. It's bases on the bank stick principle that carp anglers use. I took a plank of wood, glued two pop rivets exactly 50cm apart and after completely filling the spool as tight as I could, I would tie a small loop and then wrap the line around the two prongs, so each wrap is exactly 1m.

is it just Shimano or do other manufacturers BS about there capasity that much as well, i can except maybe a 10% difference in marked Vs actual capacity, but this is just complete fantasy on Shimano's behalf.

Ok two 55cm yellas from yesterday and and early morning run today netted me a 57cm and a 60cm.

3 yellows, 57cm, 54cm and 47cm 

Bloody killing me but, I was up at 4:30am to try some early morning bait fishing, only got carp on the bait, but got 4 yellows on the lure.
Had to use my bait rods for lure fishing, the lack of sensitivity was a problem but still got two that were decent.
No more early mornings for a while I think, time to go on the wagon a little I think, I'm shagged.
 

Bloody killing me but, I was up at 4:30am to try some early morning bait fishing, only got carp on the bait, but got 4 yellows on the lure.
Had to use my bait rods for lure fishing, the lack of sensitivity was a problem but still got two that were decent.
No more early mornings for a while I think, time to go on the wagon a little I think, I'm shagged.
 

Bloody killing me but, I was up at 4:30am to try some early morning bait fishing, only got carp on the bait, but got 4 yellows on the lure.
Had to use my bait rods for lure fishing, the lack of sensitivity was a problem but still got two that were decent.
No more early mornings for a while I think, time to go on the wagon a little I think, I'm shagged.
 

Bloody killing me but, I was up at 4:30am to try some early morning bait fishing, only got carp on the bait, but got 4 yellows on the lure.
Had to use my bait rods for lure fishing, the lack of sensitivity was a problem but still got two that were decent.
No more early mornings for a while I think, time to go on the wagon a little I think, I'm shagged.
 

No worries, I put them in there, and added this cracking pair at 57cm and 60cm from sparrow fart o'clock this morning. 👍

Two 55cm and a 53cm yella's today. 👍



 

Two more yellow belly, a 53cm and a 57cm.


Actually caught 3 that went 53cm today.

3 more for the board.
74cm cod
48cm yellow belly 
49cm yellow belly 



 

Not sure I got this right, I've been out of touch for a while. But pulled out a 60cm yellow today.