ubnt

Hi friends,

Merry Christmas!

I am planning a kayak trip with the kids in Pumicestone Passage. We plan to launch from the lower end and travel north. Can someone tell me the direction of the current due to tide? I am trying to make it easier for the kids. Cheers

22 hours ago, Keef said:

Hey guys,

What sort of bait did you use to catch that monster?

thanks. Have only ever caught small ones.

Keef

Eels are popular, but hard to get if you don't fish in river often. Mullet chops work very well.

2 hours ago, AUS-BNE-FISHO said:

I haven’t fished around Green Island a lot, but try using the lightest sinker possible to get to the bottom, and the freshest bait you can. Be careful going into the bay on a kayak as it can get rough quite quickly.

Cheers Hamish 

Thanks Hamish, will try live bait and see how it goes!

2 hours ago, ellicat said:

Yes, that patch can get quite choppy at times. First time and in the dark I'd be definitely aiming for less than 8 knots. I'd want a decent sized yak too. Plenty of toothy critters in the bay at the moment so beware.

I fish the eastern side of Green where the bottom comes up from 10 meters to 5metres and normally pick up some squire. If you get a grinner, chunk it for bait - the snapper seem to love it. At least a 5/0 circle is my go-to for the pan size snapper around there.

School mackerel can often be found in that area between Wello and Green during the daylight hours, so it may pay to troll some Halco Laser Pros in the 120mm size when on the move. If you can maintain 4 knots or above you'll be in with a chance.

Let us know when you're going.

Thanks Ellicat, will definitely watch wind speed and wave height,(aiming at less than 3 knot) not worth it to risk life for fishing!!

8 minutes ago, benno573 said:

Hey mate. You don’t even have to go as far as green. On first light the drop off south of the Hybers light and back towards the wello pt channel holds grassies, squire, flathead etc. I usually run plastics, 3” zman minnowz in yellow/gold or new penny seem to go well, usually on about 1/6 or 1/4oz jighead. Fish the lightest line you dare. Incoming tide for the win.

I have had heaps more success along here than around green, has the advantage of being closer to launch as well.

Thanks Benno, definitely stay near to shore if the wind is over 3 knots. Thanks for the tips as well!

My Navionics on my android phone can download maps for offline usage. I guess iPad app might be similar and that means you don't need internet constantly.

Nice Catch!

Hi friends,

Since holidays are near I am planning a kayak fishing trip with a friend near Green island. 

We will launch from Wellington point and paddle to the island and stay in the water for a few hours.

I am planning to launch 2 hours before first light if weather is good. Will have safety light and vest on.

Can someone offer some important advice and a few tips?

Thanks and have a good holiday!

5hp for 1k? You hit gold!

On 21/10/2022 at 9:47 PM, Thorbjorn Hale said:

I picked up my umbrella and braved the rain for a Brisbane river fishing session. I netted a few prawns and hoped for the best. I managed to pick up a nice squire but also a few catfish and an angry pike eel

PS: the snapper had pretty bad barotrauma so it should make a nice dinner.

Nice snapper, I guess it is caught in the lower reaches of Brisbane river?

What a beauty!

2 hours ago, Ed. said:

15-20cm works for me as well, the distance from the sinker to the bottom hook also varies depending on how high I want the hook above the bottom to avoid the bottom pickers, easier from a boat, not easy if you have to cast the rig out. If I am in a current and from a boat and you lower the jig slowly the current tends to keep the hooks apart, but better to have the distance between the hooks greater than the length of the two droppers so the hooks don't tangle with each other especially if your casting.

Using heavier line makes the dropper loops stick out better but also makes the line much more visible to the fish, so a bit of a trade off there. When live baiting I generally only use one hook but occasionally add a stinger hook through the tail if it is a big bait.

Thanks again for giving me all the practicals and there are lots of tradeoff in making it work. I only fish onshore and use 20 lb fc to make dropper rig, i find the dropper stiff enough to stick out. However i wonder if i should use 50 lb line to make the dropper longer and stick out better since I fish mostly at night. 

59 minutes ago, Ed. said:

A paternoster rig with 2 drop loops as in the pic. Just make sure that the 2 hooks are far enough apart that they can't hook each other. I also like to use a bit of light line between the bottom swivel (or loop) and the sinker so if you snag the sinker on the bottom, it will be much easier to break the sinker off and not lose all the hooks and part of the main line. Just make sure that the light line is strong enough, so you don't snap it when casting and lose the sinker before it even hits the water.

Thanks Ed, yes i was using the rig before.  How long do you usually make your dropper? Mine is about 15cm which i regard a bit short but enough to avoid tangling with main line.  Shorter dropper seems ineffective for me. 

23 hours ago, AUS-BNE-FISHO said:

A paternoster rig would probably be the best thing, but I think if you were fishing in current or with live bait any rig which has more than one hook or uses a three way swivel would tangle a lot.

So in current is it better to have one hook only to avoid getting tangled? 

9 hours ago, rayke1938 said:

Where are you fishing? check your regulations.

 

In qld, i think i can get 3 hooks on one /rod max? 

6 hours ago, Bob9863 said:

I fish drop shot rigs a lot, and paternoster rigs too. 

Anything else just seems to be more hassle then help. That double rig in the diagram should work but man it would be a Pita to rig, so you might want to avoid snags. 

Another option is to run a bait feeder with a few hooks off of it, I've run that a lot overseas but it can still tangle. 

Another option is a treble swivel on a running sinker rig, you tie a long leader on the bottom and a short leader on the side swivel. 

I've used that and it doesn't tangle nearly as often or nearly as bad, and it works good. 

Thanks Bob, i guess i need to work on improving my paternoster rig. Thanks for other alternatives as well!

9 minutes ago, Hweebe said:

I second @ellicat tie your own dropper rigs. I use this setup all the time. The pre-rig setup would be a nightmare to keep untangled it there is any current or wash where you're fishing.

Yes there is current when fishing near shore with water of 4 metres deep.  

19 minutes ago, ellicat said:

Why not use a dropper rig, similar to a paternoster rig ? -

Main line to a sinker then two or 3 dropper loops.

Yes dropper rig is what I tried first and it did not catch more fish, though it did not have the twisted line problem. The reson is the droppers line length is short and did not appeare as free in the water.

Hey fishos,

Just wondering if you use multiple hooks/lines on one rod? Sometimes i find myself lazy to carry two rods or because there are simply too many fishermen crowded at one spot. I saw a guy using 3 swivel snap to connect three lines to a main line with a runner sinker. He caught some fish while others had donut. So it seems there is a way to increase  odds when fishing is slow. I am trying to find a rig with multiple lines that do not get twisted, is there suh a rig? 

I found this on amazon but the leader line is too short to make a difference. 

1 hour ago, kmcrosby78 said:

Yep, we went for fathers day and tried for some whiting without any luck and yep, plenty of annoying snot weed.

Agreed,  too much snot weed these days and i wonder where they come from?!

1 hour ago, AUS-BNE-FISHO said:

The water is pretty dirty, muddy, and smelly. It's a nice skinny section of the river so would be pleasant to paddle in though. The track to get down is very steep so beware about that - it would be difficult taking a heavy kayak there.

Cheers Hamish

Thanks Hamish for the information.  From your description it is not worth it, isn't it? What do you think about the Atkinson session?

Thanks for sharing your adventure and those are nice pictures.  I will give the spot a go when the weather is ready to launch my kayak. How clean is the water there, compared to Akinson's crossing?

I guess  fishing at cheap kayak is not that comfortable for the limited space. I would prefer an expensive one. 

Good catch!

What Type of leader do you use? 

Recently  had a bust off on 15 lb mono leader and am searching for the right one that can catch flatty and bream.

7 hours ago, AUS-BNE-FISHO said:

I don’t normally put pots in when I’m fishing, but it would be a good idea. I plan to try a lot more for landbased and kayak based crabs this school holidays though.

I saw more and more fisho are becoming crabbie these days as you can get all kinds of creatures in the pot. A friend of mine got a thready one day and stopped fishing ever since.

8 hours ago, Drop Bear said:

I have one and there are a stack of pros and cons

Pros:

They keep all the hooks safely out of harms way. This is very good. I find that with a normal rod the sinker bounces off and makes a tangled mess. Even if you secure the sinker well the little hooks go everywhere and catch on other rods and their lines and the guides... 

I have been hooked up a few times with the little hooks. They don't cause much harm and are easily removed with some plyers but its not nice. These rods keep them safe and tidy. 

Cons:

They suck to use. They are long stiff poles and have no flex which means there is a lot more leverage against you than a normal bendy rod. They feel awkward and yucky.... If you are fishing in deeper water and get a string full of slimys it can be really hard work. 

In balance if I am on a boat and thinking of using it a few times during the trip I wouldn't hesitate to use one. If I was going to one spot to catch the baits and could put the jigs away after this I would prefer to use a conventional rod. 

Hi Dropbear, I mostly agreed with your comments, however I just got one from Freddy's and it's Okuma uts SABIKI rod which get quite a lot of flex( I am not sure if this is good or bad as I haven't tested it in water yet) . I guess you were referring to the rovex brand or others, but definitely not Okuma I bought. Cheers!

1 hour ago, AUS-BNE-FISHO said:

Hi @ubnt

Depending on where you fish, it could come in handy or it could be useless.

For example, if you plan to fish at Shorncliffe a lot (or any of the other piers around, for that matter), it would probably be good - most of the time you can supposedly get herring, pike, etc.

If you plan to fish a lot in rivers or just off jetties/docks, they won't be that good. Especially in the Brisbane River, where the water is filthy and there isn't the same amount of bait that concentrates around deeper pylons. 

Keep in mind you can always use a conventional rod with a bait jig too.

Cheers Hamish

Thanks Hamish for your river fishing perspective and I definitely had high hope for its place in landbased fishing. I will see if it live up to the expectation!

1 hour ago, Kat said:

I have used Brian's twice now and I am desperate to get one for my boat.  If you have the money I highly recommend!!!!!

Thanks Kat and I will get a boat later!!

1 hour ago, ellicat said:

I have one and they are great !

You could probably use any old rod to do the same, but these rods keep those little hooks from catching everything they touch. You can get the rigs in different sizes so make sure you get some with small hooks for herring (I use #6). Any brand works so go the cheapies imo.

Thanks ellicat, yes I have used other sabiki rig on normal rods but the problem probably is repack the rig after fishing. I got an expensive lesson when I left a rig on the floor and kick it without knowing the hooks are still there. :(( The good thing of this rod is probably it hide everything inside the rod and easy to travel and store as you use it.