What's this fish???

[Lokenfold]

Hey guys,

I'm new to the site but not new to fishing

I'm pretty bad when it comes to fishing, I like to call it feeding as I don't normally hook anything, to my suprise when I was bringing in my line this little fella was on the end of it.

What kind of fish is it????

[img size=251]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/toms_fish.JPG

**EDIT** Caught in the Logan river on a falling tide

Post edited by: Lokenfold, at: 2006/10/30 08:10

[Angus]

Nice one mate.

A small specimen but i do beleive thats a Jew fish.

easily one of the more sort after local species.

Fish some larger baits around that same spot, they get well over a meter long!

Angus

[Lokenfold]

That's pretty cool its all ways been my dream to catch a Jew fish.... hopefully I'll get a bigger one next time hehe

Thanks for the tip

[stingray]

Hey mate.

Sorry to let you down but that is not a jew fish , I fish the logan a lot and yeh it looks like a jew but its not.

Did it make a bit of a grunting sound ? Becoz it is a River Perch.

You get a lot of River Perch in the logan river and they dont get much bigger then 40cm.

:whistle:

[Lokenfold]

Yep it was grunting, beautiful colours on the sides too.

A river perch .... one step closer to the Jew fish

[stingray]

The good news is that you can eat river perch and there is no size on them, or bag so keep what you want.

Well done on the catch anyway.

Better luck next trip

[Angus]

Not saying its not a \"River Perch\" but do they have another name.

I ask because not one fish Guide or Fish ID Book or sie has any species called called \"River Perch\" listed. There is an Estuary Perch, but its looks almost the same as an Australian Bass not a Jewy.

Anyway just wondering. This is a piccy of a school jew taken from fishing noosa that just appears similar to me (just a bit bigger)! Even the scale pattern and all. [img size=396]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/jew.jpg

[Brian D]

Sorry Angus I'm with Marek - the mouth is different - is it not one of those perch Troy caught the night I blew my motor up?

[Angus]

Im not disagreeing, i just have never seen and after a good search this morning still cant find any reference or idetification for or of a River Perch.

Also a fish's mouth often looks different when its being suspended by it from a hook

Angus

[Brian D]

Ha

It's a \" modern teanage trendy fish\" - cause it's got a lip piercing.:silly:

What did Troy call his? I think you called it a Estuary Perch.

Post edited by: Brian D, at: 2006/10/30 12:56

Post edited by: Brian D, at: 2006/10/30 12:58

[Lokenfold]

Here is another angle, It grunted, it was nice to touch like a trout (well like the trouts you buy from woolies hehe) The fish had beautiful colouration.

*EDIT*Hmm having problems uploading picture

Post edited by: Lokenfold, at: 2006/10/30 15:27

[Brian D]

Angus wrote:

after a good search this morning still cant find any reference or idetification for or of a River Perch.

Angus

Wher do you search?

[Cowfish13]

River perch are in the same family as normal Jewies and their other name is Little Jewfish. So if you know for sure that it was a River perch, you can say that it was a Jewfish. The picture below is of both species, The Bottom is the River Perch/Little Jewfish. The top is a normal Jew [img size=200]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/Jewfish_from_book-37d9157af722ed8accd0b9ef3acff372.jpg

[Lokenfold]

Another go [img size=395]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/Tom_fish2.jpg

[Cowfish13]

Note the yellow fins in the picture of your fish, and the bottom fish in my picture.

[Brian D]

Yeah like that photo helps:unsure:

From cow fishes photo's what's your call Loken?

I suppose it does considering what cow just said. I say Perch but I didn't catch it.

Post edited by: Brian D, at: 2006/10/30 15:36

[Red]

It's a Croaker, there's about 50 different types around the world.

They call them Croakers because they make a croaking sound.

[Angus]

Hahaha.

Well this i the problem with having different names for different fish.

Although i think judging from Cowfish's page im going to concede to the River Perch or Little Jew. Then we are both right

But that was interesting Red cheers!

Angus

[werewolf]

Yep, River Perch \"Johniops vogleri\". Here's the pic from Grant's (the best fish ID guide!!!!): [img size=448]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/River_Jew.jpg

[Lokenfold]

To tell you the truth, I don't think its that fish either, the fish that I caught (I caught 2 in the same day) they had a mouth that is designed for sucking the bottom of the river/sea

Plus it had a big snout/nose, and when the mouth was fully opened it extended outwards past the end of the nose.

I think we are on the right track, maybe different family?

Post edited by: Lokenfold, at: 2006/10/30 22:22

[Red]

Lokenfold, You're right they're a bottom feeding fish with their mouth extending outwards and down.

The kids like to catch them here but they are worldwide and you probably call them a different name.

Here, Atlantic Croaker - Micropogonias undulatus.... Queensland, Scaly croaker - Nibea squamosa.

Like many fish, colors change with water color.

They are in the drum family like this red drum.

[Brian D]

I believe it's a mutated carp from the Benny ponds that has come down stream form the fresh.

[Red]

The Benny ponds?.. Maybe that's where Ben Lauden is?

[Brian D]

That's a classic Red.

Got any more?

Can you post em in the funnies forum?

It's great to get a laugh at work.

:cheer:

[rayke1938]

Looks like a perch that used to be prolific in the brisbane river 50 - 60 years ago. i have find memories of walking a mile from ekibin up to the tram at chardons corner and catching a tram into town with mum and dad and my two sisters. There used to be a bait shop below the old victoria bridge and we used to buy a half a pound of prawns and fish for perch with cherry blossom gut hand lines lines. We used to place a few drops of essence of aniseed on the prawns.

It was not uncommon to nearly fill a sugar bag with perch and sometimes we would get smashed up by a big jew.

There was a hole close to the bank just upstream of the grey street ( william Jolly) bridge that we used to avoid because there was lots of jew in it and we couldnt afford to lose our lines by hooking big fish

I think that dad also used to call them putty noses.

They were good eating when fresh but dad also used to salt and air dry them and they used to taste B A when mum used to serve them up on toast and white sauce.

Ray

[werewolf]

Red: Your USA croaker looks like what we call a \"Grunter Bream\".

In consideration of my other post, I'm pretty sure now its not the River Jew, based on: the mouth being the wrong shape, and the \"tendrils\" on the fins of the unknown.

Lokenfold: I would suggest that you stick a post on Ausfish. There is a much bigger user base over there so more than likely someone will know what it is, seeing how we bombed out here!

Ray: Trying to \"avoid\" jew :woohoo: Amazing how things how changed!:ohmy:

[Lokenfold]

I'm fine with river perch, that was my guess when I pulled it out .... that it was some kind of perch fish...

Thanks to everyone who helped to ID it

[blue_mako]

Jordan, my friend Mitchell and myself went down to the Loagn River in hope of some Bullies. Though we didn't get one. In the first 5 mins Mitch pulled in a definate Jewie. Had the small teeth, purple tinge and light spots. I am 100% certain it was Jewie.

Near the end of the session he caught another fish similar to a Jew but I had my doubts. I just figgured it was a Teraglin but still I wasn't sure. It didnt have a purple tinge or spots, it was silver and didn't have the small teeth. It had teeth like a Barra and they shot forward like a Mullet or Golden Trevally's mouth would. Later on I found out it was a River Perch.

That fish you caught is also a River Perch. Like Marekk said they don't grow much over 40cm. They are quite common in the Logan and Albert Rivers but almost unheard of in other river systems.

Troy

[jeff f]

hi guys this could go on forever. you catch heaps of these littke fellas in the mary river but because of the muddy water they arereally golden in colour. i gave up trying to get a deffinate id on them 10 years ago after years of trying, we now just call them live bait