Offshore snapper set ups!

[ryno1983]

Hey Guys,

Im wanting to start heading offshore chasing snapper. Bought a GPS and sounder now i need to work on the gear. Im wanting to get an outfit to flick slugs and float pillies and an outfit for bottom bashing and trailing. Will spend the $$$ to get good gear.

Could anyone suggest size of rod and reel and what brands you would run with on both.

Thanks for the help guys.

[Fisher_90]

You mean bottom bashing and trolling?

[MichaelJ]

i use a torsa and custom built garry howard rod great rod and reel really smooth drag

[Mack_attack]

whatnow wrote:

i use a torsa and custom built garry howard rod great rod and reel really smooth drag

but that's not too great for flicking slugs

[MichaelJ]

yeh u can cast them like bait casters to but hed probly be looking for a spinning combo a stella is a good real

[ryno1983]

yes bottom bashing and trolling. I went into tackle world and for a float setup i liked the okuma 6500 and shimano 6500 reels $200 and a grand wave Diawa rod 7ft 15-30 pound $200. For bottom bashing and trolling a pen cenator combo for $350. What do you guys think any suggestions?

[MichaelJ]

should be good hope ya christen your rods soon

[Rocket75]

Shimano BTR 6500 is the weapon of choice for quite a lot of snapper fishos.

Especially floating baits down burley trails and using livies. Although a heavy reel, it can still be used for casting, but does not have a high speed retrieve like some spinners. Most common rod to match would be a 6-10kg 7ft6 rod, but some people prefer 10-15 kg, depends on your preference ( and budget ).

Bottom bashing favourite of the masses are the Shimano TLD range, tuff as and not too hard on the pocket.

A lot of people try to get both applications from the one outfit, but almost always you end up compromising on either one or both uses.

Happy hunting, it pays to shop around for prices and hit the sales when they come around.

Rocket

[Fisher_90]

And also use 10% price matches at Anaconda, But go and see PlasticMan at Tackleworld, he'll

give a good price to afo members.

I have to agree on a Tld25 for Bottom bashing and Trolling. I also like the 6500 size pfluegers, Schultzy reccomends them and uses them to catch anything from snapper, tuna to Barra and best of all they are around $135 Match that with some 20 or 30lb Braid on a 6-10 or 8-12(My preference)6ft6-7ft6 rod and u'll be rite.

[ryno1983]

Thanks guys for the suggestions. Though still a little confused could you clear up a few things for me.

1. Are overheads better for trolling and bottom bashing compared to spin? What are your preferences?

2. In saying that would you suggest to get a spin okuma eclipz 90 or a TLD 25 or TLD 20?

3. 7ft i can get a grand wave diawa rod 12-20 pounds for float fishing. What size for bottom bashing and trolling.

Thanks alot guys for the help!

[chubbstar]

OK this is what I use and I find it very versatile. I have a Berkley Cherrywood Boat 60 ( I guess the 60 stands for 6'?), 8-12kg line class. Matched with a Okuma Force FES 580 6.3:1 fast retrive. I use 30lb braid and can cast a good distance with a metal slug 40. But I also bottom bounce and float baits all the time. It's been a great set up and only cost me around $130:woohoo: I mainly got it to fish for Jew and Tuna, but I use it whenever I go fishing:blush:

Good luck

Jayson

[Fisher_90]

Overheads when ure not casting and just letting line out to drop the bait down or let it out to troll. I would go 10-15kg MAX probably 8-10kg is best. I say the TLD 25 but depending on the price of the okuma and lifetime warranty it may be a hard choice. What price for the okuma eclipz?

[MichaelJ]

id rather use the okuma cause i hate tld's

[ryno1983]

The eclipz 90 are $198. Are the TLD 25 to bulky to use for barra fishing also on a 5ft 6 G loomis rod?

[Cowfish13]

A 25 would be. Maybe (only possibly) for trolling, but way to big for casting lures.

[Fisher_90]

The Tld 25 would be alrite for trolling barra but not for casting, also i would pay the extra $50-100 for the Shimano Tld-25. Proven Reliability gets the tick. Tld 25's are like 250-300 arent they?

[ryno1983]

what 7ft 8-12kg brand of rod would you recommend for bottom bashing and trolling. Have i got the sizes right or should it be a little shorter for trolling and bottom bashing say 6ft6.

[Cowfish13]

Not that much. Only $170-200

[ryno1983]

yeah the TLD 25 around $300. Do you personally prefer overheads compared to spin for bottom bashing?

[jeff f]

dont pay that much for a tld 25 if you hunt around you can get them for $200 or under

[Fisher_90]

Probably better for bottom bashing. The floater should be 7ft or 7ft6 and the B Basher 6ft6 I would put the tld 25 on a Wilson Live Fibre 6ft6 6-10kg 6-10kg. $197 from Motackle
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I would try and feel the rod with both the 20 and 25 size reels on go with the one that feels better.

[faulked]

i would have to say that a 6500 bait runner for soaking baits /cubing/floating pillies then a tld 25 or better still a 2 spd for offshore ie 30metres of water great for bottom bashing or trolling bigger lures and finnaly buy a very fast retrieve ratio reel for chucking slugs and leave it set up as such and nice and grabable too i love the good old silstar power tip rods but it looks like everyone makes one the same these days just remember keep it short for leverage for bottom bashing and long for casting slugs and about 6/7 is good around the boat for the bait runner which you will get more use out of than the rest put together good luck and happy fishing

[ryno1983]

Thanks for all the advice guys.

[ryno1983]

since the shimano BTR 6500 dont have a high speen retrieve. Would anyone recommend another spin reel with high speed retrieve that i could use for both floating pilies and flicking slugs?

and once again thanks for all the help

[Fisher_90]

TSS4 IF you can get one, i know Tackleworld Sandgate have the last few but u will pay 179 whereas most places are usually $140 but their really tuff reels and can pretty much take any abuse.

[ryno1983]

Fisher 90 have you had any experiences with pfluegers 6500. Would the Tss4 still remain your pick for an all round floating and flicking slugs reel?

[ryno1983]

Also Fisher 90, i do like the Wilson live fibre 6-10kg with the TLD 25 for trolling and bottom bashing.

Regarding the float and flicking rod. What do you think of the grand wave diawa rods? They only come in 7ft though do you think getting a different type in 7ft6 is better, with the tss4. What difference really does 6inches make? If so what type would you recommend.

Thanks for your advice mate. Karma

[mackmauler]

hey fisher, will you still buy made in china LOL

[mackmauler]

while the tss4 is a good reel, if u intend of jigging plastics a fair bit there rather wobbly and big.

im also not much of a fan of the drag on them as the adjustment is not very precise.

as plastics seem to be more the go now, a smaller higher quality and more expensive model such as a diawa sol 3000 would be my choice.

[ryno1983]

Is the diawa 3000 also suitable for floating pillies?

[mackmauler]

yes it is, but thatll never be a selling point, there is probably no tackle on the market that cant handle a 50 gram pilchard while sitting in a rod holder.

[Fisher_90]

Pluegers 6500 would be the best for $130 IMO. Neil Schultz reccomends them alot on here. That could be your floater and might do the job for high speed spinning

[ya mum]

yer i recomend them as well

[ya mum]

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[ya mum]

fisher_90 is a 13 year old boi named tim hall

[Fisher_90]

Why bother coming on the site if u dont know the first thing about fishing. You only go on because you saw me on it. Why bother matt?

[Fisher_90]

ya mum wrote:

fisher_90 is a 13 year old boi named tim hall

Hilarious Matt