ecogear

[faulked]

having never bought one where or the northside do i look for ecogear lures

[STU]

any off the main tackle shops should have them bcf do aswell I think.

[MichaelJ]

yeh bcf do and tackle world snadgate does but i think there bit more expensive there

[Angus]

Yeah if your Northside BCF or Jones. If you can cross the bridge check out Tackleworld.

Angus

[James W]

faulked wrote:

having never bought one where or the northside do i look for ecogear lures

via the bank, to get a loan too dont forget:P

[Dan23]

If you order a bunch of other stuff it's cheap on Motackle. About the same as BCF if you only buy a couple once you add the $10 shipping. I just put in a $214 order for myself and my dad. Almost all of it was small hard bodies :laugh:

I think I have a problem

[pcsolutionman]

mate you dont have a problem, thats just normal when you start making orders weekly your starting to get a problem :blush: :blush: :blush:

Lee

[Dan23]

maybe it's my first week:(

of many.....

[kevinchen19870316]

yeah, dan, i'll push u into the dark side

[faulked]

allrighty i sx40f and one sx48f bought god there small what sort of trace is recomended on these guys i have 4lb main or 14lb both in braid

[Fisher_90]

For flathead go a 10 or 12lb leader and for bream go 4 6 or 8.

[shortie]

Even with good gear and light line 4LB i still have trouble casting SX 40's

What the secret

[Dan23]

I caught 17 fish on my last sx40 in under two days on 8lb Vanish flurocarbon leader and 8lb Platypus super braid. That was in tannen water. Clear water my dad outfished me with 4lb fireline and 4lb fluro. He busted off on that gear though with something big. Flathead seem to love sx40s so it's definately an 8lb or up leader in brissie's surrounds because the water isn't very clear.

p.s. read the instructions in the packet. they are in broken English but are worth reading. If you're in a boat casting at the banks and working back down into drop offs was deadly for me.

[Fisher_90]

Practise. What do u mean by trouble?

[faulked]

shortie wrote:

Even with good gear and light line 4LB i still have trouble casting SX 40's

What the secret

is your spool nice and full that can be like having the brakes on if its not

[shortie]

i cant get any distance or accuracy.

Maybe 5-6 meters at best

I know casting with the wind helps.

[Dan23]

I was casting them with a 3-6kg rod and 8lb braid the other day and they were going ok. But dad had a 1-3kg dropshot and 4lb fireline. His were going about 35% further.

[shortie]

faulked wrote:

shortie wrote:

Even with good gear and light line 4LB i still have trouble casting SX 40's

What the secret

is your spool nice and full that can be like having the brakes on if its not

Was spooled by the tackle shop.

[Fisher_90]

Did they use backing?

[shortie]

yep backing and the spool is full.

[Fisher_90]

Well how long is the rod?

[Dan23]

6'6 is ok for boat or kayak. For land based up to 7'2. And light. 1-4lb or 1-3kg whatever it is measured in.

[faulked]

i just went out the back and had a go it took a few casts before i could get much past 5or so metres but i think the braid must get heavier with water each cast and after awhile i could hit about 10 plus metres accuracy i think will come in time and maybe a softer rod i am using a 3to5 which is a little stiff

[Dan23]

You'd be amazed how much further they go with a 1-3kg. Berkley dropshots are a good cheap rod in that class.

[faulked]

id guess that your right on the money there mate mines just not quite loading up so it cant flick that lure

[kevinchen19870316]

there r some UL trout rods designed for throwing 1-3grms lures and a SX40 is not lite at all for them to throw. just go to a big tackle store and find the lightest rod available that's not a GLX,ha

[shortie]

kevinchen19870316 wrote:

there r some UL trout rods designed for throwing 1-3grms lures and a SX40 is not lite at all for them to throw. just go to a big tackle store and find the lightest rod available that's not a GLX,ha

Not a GLX Kevin what are you saying. I think it would be bye bye SX 40 before the GLX.:ohmy:

[kevinchen19870316]

a GLX is too expensive for most people i think. they r one of the best rods to throw sx40s but..

[Mack_attack]

shortie believe me when i say that i'm not trying to show off but at present i use 6lb fireline crystal, a graphite 7ft sss rod from bcf and a daiwa 2500 regal Xi so all pretty basic stuff but i can cast sx40's to the other side of schultz which is about 20m or more pretty easily and if there is a tail wind i usually have to stop the cast short or it will get snagged on the other side.

i think the key is to flick your lure rather than doing a wave of your rod.

one final thing check that your lure is either rolling or stationary while casting instead of spinning head over tail as this will drastically reduce casting distance. if this is the case you may need to alter your cast until it does so

[kevinchen19870316]

i think the problem with shortie is not his casting. i could fire my sx40 well over the bank using a cheaper PROCYON 2-6LB with SYMETER 1500 spooled with 4lb braid. but when i cast with his set up, the 2 problem i noticed r. 1, the spool's not full enough to let line go really free. 2, the leader knot significantly reduce the speed of lure. his casting;s ok, a very good flick.

[Fisher_90]

Probably the line but the tackle store should have done it right.

[kevinchen19870316]

when casting lures less than 5grms, i usually risk spooling my reel really full, maybe only 1-3mm from the lip depending on what line and how soft the line is. every millimeter less would reduce the casting distance a lot

[Mack_attack]

ok then just refill your spool

[blue_mako]

If you are using an SX40 then it's Bream, wild Bass or Trout (Which I doubt) you're after. I use 2lb Siglon Basic Fluorocarbon Line straight through for light hardbody Breamin'. SX40's are only 2.5g so 2lb braid and under is the best option.

Try a Smith Camion Dredge or Jackall Chubby Deep. Both are over 4g, cast like a rocket and dive to just under 3m max.

If you aren't targeting Bream on them and are going for something like Flathead or Cod there is no point in using a 40mm lure. You will catch far more rats and when a bigger fish takes it, it won't just take it, it will inhale it making short work of light leaders.

Something 60-80mm is tops for Cod and Flatties, SX60's or Halco Scorpians 65's in metallic chrome colours with 10lb+ leader are a good starting point.

Troy

[shortie]

I think i have the problem sussed.

When i cast the line seems to come of the reel in small coils.

When i trolled the other day i let out about 100m of line and then rewound with the tension on.

Casting the lure is now not a problem.

So much for getting the reel spooled by the tackle shop.

[Dan23]

blue_mako wrote:

If you aren't targeting Bream on them and are going for something like Flathead or Cod there is no point in using a 40mm lure. You will catch far more rats and when a bigger fish takes it, it won't just take it, it will inhale it making short work of light leaders.

Troy

Problem I'm having is the places I target Bream also hold heaps of Flathead. So going lighter than 8lb just isn't an option unless you want to be forever losing lures. Might get less bream because of this but flatties as a by catch is ok with me. I'm mainly targeting bream in tannen water and at low light though so it's not such an issue. When I go clear water I can't get a touch on 8lb though so you just have to risk it.

[kevinchen19870316]

try to get 2 spools dan. one with 6lb braid( that's incredibly thin) and the other with 12lb braid.

[Fisher_90]

i would go 12lb and 6lb as well but on ure ultra light setup ure getting put 4lb or 3lb

[kevinchen19870316]

a 6lb braid is not thicker than a 1lb fireline

[Fisher_90]

I know their is a new braid from sunline thats $50 for 300metres which is a bit more than fireline.