Help...unknown fish

[clifford]

Does anyone know that type of fish this is?

Me and a mate were chucking the cast net at breaky creek the other nite and got this little guy. I thought it was a little flathead at first until I saw it in the light. [img size=500]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/111020080802_AFO.jpg

[planetfonz]

ahh this is good stuff.. we got one a short time back at jindalee also cast netting... so yeah comon fish gods.. help oot

higher res image is here --> http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp44/planetfonz/IMG_0582.jpg

cheers

[Smiderman]

Looks like a mother in law fish

[clifford]

no thats just who I was escaping when I caught it

[brisfisher]

looks like some kind of gudgeon(spelling?)

[Mack_attack]

I've caught plenty in the cast net, they play dead in your hands and scoot off when they get put back into the water.

For years i've just called them sleepy cod although i don't think this is correct.

[uglyfish]

it does look simular to a sleepy cod,but not in salt water i dont think

[bootyinblue]

Arent they those poisonous fish that make yout flesh die and rot when you touch them. They say that toxin is released from the fish when its stressed slowing the fish down (as in playing dead) and the toxin is absorbed by the predators skin acting against the nervous system and shutting down the blood supply, causing the skin to die....

Sheesh... only kidding mate I have no idea, but did I have you checking out your hand though?

[Gad]

if it had a bit of a goatee on the bottom lip[jaw],I would hazzard a wild guess and say member of ling family...,having had a second look,maybe the eye is a bit high for ling.?

[flatty_catcher]

looks like a whiting thats had a hard life

[Nitris]

brisfisher wrote:

looks like some kind of gudgeon(spelling?)

i think ur on the money there brisfisher.. me and planetfonz caught that little baby in his link at Jindalee boat ramp.. id say last summer. but i still never got a definate id on it.. would be great to know.

[jakhunta]

Nitris wrote:

brisfisher wrote:

looks like some kind of gudgeon(spelling?)

i think ur on the money there brisfisher.. me and planetfonz caught that little baby in his link at Jindalee boat ramp.. id say last summer. but i still never got a definate id on it.. would be great to know.

Ive caught several in the cast net also and have always thought they were a gudgeon. Also good bait.

[jakhunta]

flathead locally and jacks up in cairns.

[flatty_catcher]

here we go ,, theres no way thats a sleepy cod, I just looked at 10 pics of a sleepy cod and that aint one.

my moneys on a whiting species.

DAn

[James W]

from the "wild guide moreton bay"..a crimson tipped flathead gudgeon....

small medium size bottom dwelling, mostly fresh water or estuaries...e.t.c

page 308

see it nitris?..reckon thats it?

[Angus]

jimmybob wrote:

from the "wild guide moreton bay"..a crimson tipped flathead gudgeon....

small medium size bottom dwelling, mostly fresh water or estuaries...e.t.c

page 308

see it nitris?..reckon thats it?

Jimmybob I reckon your spot on. If your wrong i can say for that:

a: Its not a sleepy cod. That would be as liekly as casting up a murray cod in breakfast creek (in fact less likely!!).

b: Its not a whiting species.

Angus

[Mack_attack]

sounds good jimmybob,

I only called them a sleepy cod because they go to sleep in your hand and kind of look like a cod

Yep definetely not a whiting.

[Nitris]

jimmybob wrote:

from the "wild guide moreton bay"..a crimson tipped flathead gudgeon....

small medium size bottom dwelling, mostly fresh water or estuaries...e.t.c

page 308

see it nitris?..reckon thats it?

i agree jimmy bob.. its damm close if it is not.. man its hard to work this book.. just takes a bit of patience i guess.. i cant believe there is no order to it..

[clifford]

Nice one Jimmy Bob. Cheers for that.

Thanks to everyone else who "helped" as well. It drives me up the wall when I catch things I can't identify.

[kreel]

Nitris wrote:

jimmybob wrote:

from the "wild guide moreton bay"..a crimson tipped flathead gudgeon....

small medium size bottom dwelling, mostly fresh water or estuaries...e.t.c

page 308

see it nitris?..reckon thats it?

i agree jimmy bob.. its damm close if it is not.. man its hard to work this book.. just takes a bit of patience i guess.. i cant believe there is no order to it..

As I've stated earlier I work at the Queensland Museum as a graphic designer. We are currently working on a new Wild Guide to Moreton Bay, but I can't give you an estimate on when it will be in print as yet.

As a designer I am baffled by the ordering in the book myself, the scientists here have been consulted and apparently it makes sense to them.

I asked Jeff Johnson (Collection Manager of Ichthyology) about the mystery fish above - he confirmed that it is in fact a Crimson Tipped Gudgeon.

Hi Baden

Your fish is a Crimsontip Gudgeon, Butis butis. This species is common

in bays and estuaries of northern Australia between Yamba, NSW to Port

Hedland, WA. It reaches at least 18cm.

Cheers

Jeff

I think we have a fantastic resource here at AFO and the dialogue that follows each enquiry is interesting in itself. If we can't find a resolution here on AFO then the Museum is happy to answer any enquiries from the public through our website:

/>http://www.qm.qld.gov.au/inquiry/contact/

[kriso]

kreel,

can you ask them if they find any new species to call one a kriso fish! rofl...

[kreel]

kriso wrote:

kreel,

can you ask them if they find any new species to call one a kriso fish! rofl...

You can actually pay to get a spider named after you:

Opopaea krisoeii

If you're genuinely interested, its done through the qm Foundation:

/>http://www.foundation.qm.qld.gov.au/01_cms/details.asp?ID=46

Go on Kriso, I'd love to take a can of morteine to you. :laugh:

[kriso]

hahhaha a spider! would have to be hairy, smokes and drunk alot of the time lol!

[Gad]

well done to all,

I enjoy the piscatorial trivial pursuits when they come along,one can never gather enough knowledge,to be completely satisfied and know it all.

cheers

[magiva]

don't know fella's but by the looks of it. It may only be a couple of days old, if that is a feed sack on it's belly. Just a thought...

If by chance it is that young,it's a wild guess............MAGIVA..........

[yellahunter]

yup its butis butis,

they are often sold in aquarium shops as crazy fish or butis.

[j perch]

def butis butis, often mistaken for flathead gudgeon, caught many in my cast net, very agressive towards prey, top tank fish, got a few in the tanks now, i thought i caught a big poo when i first saw one