carp

[straddiebrad]

just wondering if anybody has used this for burley as i have a mincer and often use pike pillies and run it through the mincer would using carp be illegal.brad

[dan25]

Never used em as burley before but sounds like a good idea

[Do$tylz]

I think you might find yourself in trouble somewhere with this.

According to the QLD DPI site keeping noxious fish dead or alive is illegal. I'm making the assumption that even if you mince them when you catch them and then store, they could potentially still get you.

/>http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/1553.html

[dan25]

yeh, sounds like its illegal.

[lt obvious]

Yeah, its probably better if you don't keep them... Always 'better safe than sorry' eh?

[bmxdirtjumpa]

Yeah since u have to kill them and discard them AWAY from the water if caught, I would imagine that the dpi would not like you mincing them and putting them back into the water

[straddiebrad]

yer i thought as much i just think the amount of carp in the water ways someone would be using this source for something,funny how you can buy imported garden feed with the carp in it.brad

[Do$tylz]

Yeah there was some company a while ago that I saw on some TV special (like Extra or something) that minced up the Carp and used it as an additive to feed for farm animals and fertilizer for gardens.

I guess there are stringent laws around it though.

[fishing_hardcore]

pffft.. mince em up ..kill em

your doing the water ways a service.

[chrissy_fisher]

fishing_hardcore wrote:

pffft.. mince em up ..kill em

your doing the water ways a service.

the authourities may not like it....but im sure the waterways would....i agree with above

[goldnugget]

Take3 keeps timing out when trying to send posted message.

Down south in the Murray region Carp are harvested and processed down to a product called 'Charlie Carp Liquid Fertiliser' found on shelves at Bunnings, Nurseries, Hardware etc. As for Berley, for legal reasons I would say 'Dont bother', though I dont see an issue with it used off shore (but who listens to me lol). Dont see why you couldnt mince it down for your own fertiliser though.

[Bri The Pom]

I saw a tv fishing show a few sundays ago, he was beach fishing and using bonito and he said better still carp for bait.

[Little Grey Men]

I'm guessing that the problem could be the eggs which may end up back in the waterways.

When we knock them on the head out west we bury them high above the waterline.

Tilapia get the same treatment as their eggs can hatch after being out of the water a long time after the parent fish is killed. Even rain can wash them back down to the water and hey presto....more water rabbits.

People cleaning noxious fish in a sink can wash eggs down the drain and the things can hatch where they eventually settle and guess what ? more feral fish.

Noxious fish are such a big problem that the authorities don't want to take any chances.

I wouldn't use them as burley just in case.

[dhess]

Little Grey Men wrote:

........People cleaning noxious fish in a sink can wash eggs down the drain and the things can hatch where they eventually settle and guess what ? more feral fish.

Sorry have to call BS on this one.

There is no way on earth fish eggs will survive through the sewerage treatment process.

[uglyfish]

Would be highly ilegal,I wouldn't recomend it...kill all the carp you want,but disquard the properly

[ellicat]

dhess wrote:

Little Grey Men wrote:

........People cleaning noxious fish in a sink can wash eggs down the drain and the things can hatch where they eventually settle and guess what ? more feral fish.

Sorry have to call BS on this one.

There is no way on earth fish eggs will survive through the sewerage treatment process.

Pretty sure my sink isn't connected to the sewerage line Storm water doesn't get treated, so I think the point is valid. Especially so outside urbania.

[uglyfish]

all grey water goes in to the sewerage system as far as i know..i maybe wrong..ellicat mate your avatar makes me wanna kick the crap out of my pc lmao

[goldnugget]

..ellicat mate your avatar makes me wanna kick the crap out of my pc lmao

I second that :woohoo:

[Little Grey Men]

dhess wrote:

Little Grey Men wrote:

........People cleaning noxious fish in a sink can wash eggs down the drain and the things can hatch where they eventually settle and guess what ? more feral fish.

Sorry have to call BS on this one.

There is no way on earth fish eggs will survive through the sewerage treatment process.

Lets call it waste water then....perhaps not sink. When cleaning a fish tank it has always been advised to empty the water in the garden not down the sink, because of disease and eggs that may be present I know the waste water is treated but I suppose it's best looked upon as another precaution we can take to keep these mongrel fish under control. Just in case something odd happens.

But then again, what if you tip water on the garden containing cichlid eggs then hose the garden the next day and wash eggs into the drain.

The EPA must get nervous when some of these exotics are brought into the country even under controlled conditions hey ?

[Davo_Dinkum]

crappy water conditions are ok for the carp and tilapia to breed in.

and our water way are perfect for there breeding.

was reading about breeding carp .

the stagnant water and dirty are ok for them not perfect but the will live and breed in it. that's what they have over our native fish.they lay egg and the male fertilize them.they got sticky eggs too.

the tilapia are cichlids .need i say more.

[Gazza]

But then again, what if you tip water on the garden containing cichlid eggs then hose the garden the next day and wash eggs into the drain.

The EPA must get nervous when some of these exotics are brought into the country even under controlled conditions hey ?

[Little Grey Men]

Gazza wrote:

But then again, what if you tip water on the garden containing cichlid eggs then hose the garden the next day and wash eggs into the drain.

The EPA must get nervous when some of these exotics are brought into the country even under controlled conditions hey ?

gotta ask how often do you drown your garden that it goes to the drain ?

[robin]

Can you eat Carp

[Travis]

i dont see a problem with it in salt water...... theres no law against keeping them is there? only returning them?

Mince them at home

[Little Grey Men]

robin wrote:

Can you eat Carp

I know people out west who chew on them, but I reckon they'd be muddy as hell and they are very boney.

[Do$tylz]

trav - nope... there is a law with keeping possession of them. Check the link I posted in the first page of this thread.

[Travis]

fair enough, that means you cant even eat them

[Gazza]

I've tried carp in all ways shapes and forms and it always taste's like crap :X :X best usage fertilizer but fun to catch

Heard Talipia are good on the chew but illegal to have in possession I would have thought encouraging ppl to eat them would help reduce their numbers ???

Gaz

[fishing_hardcore]

robin wrote:

Can you eat Carp

when i was a teenager we came across a mudhole dam (that was sometimes connected to the river) drying up, it had about 1 foot of water in the bottom of it and about 1000 carp of all sizes living in it.

well we took to em with iron rods we made and after about 3 hours we had a pile about 1 meter high on the bank.

we lit a fire on them and as they were burning I noticed some were cooking quite nicely, so I took a peice and had a munch of the nice chunky white flesh, they actually were not too bad at all.

I think it depends on the size of fish, habitat and time of year ect ect..

The europeans love em.