queensland Lenthalls 16th to 24Feb 08 any interest.????

[STU]

cheers aaron I'm thinking of taking the crawdad with elecy on front and 2hp on back how far is wongi waterholes to the dam plasticman is coming too so should be a cracker weekend for all

[Plastic Man]

hell yeah looks like stu and myself will be up there 15 16 and 17 bring on the barra

[Plastic Man]

stu you beat me too it

[STU]

They dont call me fast fingers france for nothing haha

[Aaron H]

By memory about 15 minutes on the dodgy dirt road (depending on the road condition) I'm camping there in around a months time so will let u know more about it then

[STU]

karma for ya help Aaron

[rayke1938]

Probably more loke 30 minutes to Wonga, dont forget bushmans also dont be tenpted to bushcamp the ranger is a nice guy provided you do the right thing. There are plenty of no camping signs around so no excuses with him.

If you keep on the right side of him he is extremely helpfull.

I heard a whisper on another post that work on the dam extension is almost completed and WBW are reviewing entry conditions ( speed and horsepower will be unchanged at this time.)

Ray

[Aaron H]

I hope they keep the 6hp limit on there, It makes it a nice tranquil spot and keeps away the big crowds, an earlier opening time would be nice though, poppers around the lillies on sunrise would be dynamite. Any barra left in there? I'm a bit sceptical after the fish kill and the massive amount of rain, do Barra jump over the wall like bass?

[rayke1938]

Dam still hasnt overflowed the new spillway.

I havent seen any reports on any barra caught on any website since the fishkill so it looks a bit pessamistic on the barra side but the bass have been going off. I will contact Paul Dolan soon to see what he has to say re the barra.

Ray

[Aaron H]

Ah sweet I thought it went over I'd sya there still there then just spread out a lot more with the bigger lake capacity, I think my snag I fished last time (dam at 50%) will be about 30 ft under water better take the Lowrance

[rayke1938]

Just put a post on fishntales of hervey asking for info.

Ray

[Aaron H]

Need to speak to that ranger fella James he used to be pretty helpful, have not seen him post in a while though

[Oztrav]

sounds good bit like a halfway trip hopefully i can milk some days off has this been lined up with the full moon?

[reef_raider]

um well bad news guys, looks like a i have to go to a bloody year 12 leadership camp at Yandina from 20-22 so im going to have to cancel

[kevinchen19870316]

get a medical certificate....heard broken due to the cancellation of fishing trip, so unable to attend any social activities

[rayke1938]

Here is a reply that I got from fishntales site.

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Re: Lenthalls in February.

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I have been informed that we lost 4500 - 5000 barra between 50cm - 110cm in the cold snap.There have been a \"few\" barra caught since but I suspect we have lost the majority of our stocks to date. The Fraser Coast Fish Stocking Association have got an order in place for 12,000 barra fingerling's to arrive in December and the bass fishing has been fantastic of late Wink

I ( As President of the FCFSA ) Will update any details re:-fish stocking as soon as confirmed.

Regards Scotto

PS:I apologize for the delay in replies - flat out with work & moving house Tongue

So it looks like a bass trip with maybe a quicky up to monduran for a barra fix one day. Maybe some more barra may come out of hibernation with the warmer weather.

Ray

[Aaron H]

:( Very very depressing, may have to alter my plans for the weekend before christmas to Monduran

[Oztrav]

they might have have a few thousand barra but the amount of fish that go into sip dams in amazing like they are putting 12000 fingerlings in i know not all will survive but how many years have they been stocking and how many fish have gone into that water i' d still be packing barra gear

[ellicat]

I wonder what the survival rate is for stocking in impoundments and how it compares like to the natural survival rate in the wild.

You'd have to think it diminishes as time goes on and the previous stockings eat more and more of the new releases.

[Brian D]

If I was a fish I would prefer the wild. Tidal waters and open rivers are fare better place to live, hide and breed. I don't think they die from exposure in the wild.

THe other thing is, on my understanding, that Lenthals is/was a bass dam. To date Barra have only been stocked in min numbers so as not to cause damage to the bass population. Loosing 4500-5000 barra just about wipes out the stocks,

Out of the 12000 new fingerlings I would guess at about a 25% survival rate cause tha bass are going to be hungry. Another guess, it will be 2 years before we see many 75cm barra again.

[kevinchen19870316]

how fast do barra and bass grow?

[Brian D]

An uneducated answer is \"that depends on the food source, strain of fish and area they live\". THere are different strains of Barra and Bass which all grow differently.

Awoonga gets 75cm Barra in 2 years from what I hear. THe 130's at Awoonga are said to be 5-6 years.

Bass take about 2 years to get to 25cm (I think) but that will depend on lots of variables.

Does anyone have a better answer?

[kevinchen19870316]

thank you brian. karma for ya

75cm in 2 yrs is really quick.... a lot of bony bream and garfish must have had a nightmare for that....and some happy anglers.

[Feral]

NO pretty close Brian, legal sized Barra are around 2 years old generally. I think Big Dan told me the 60 to 70's at Lenthalls were 2 years old, so growth rate there is good.

[Aaron H]

Brian D wrote:

If I was a fish I would prefer the wild. Tidal waters and open rivers are fare better place to live, hide and breed. I don't think they die from exposure in the wild.

THe other thing is, on my understanding, that Lenthals is/was a bass dam. To date Barra have only been stocked in min numbers so as not to cause damage to the bass population. Loosing 4500-5000 barra just about wipes out the stocks,

Out of the 12000 new fingerlings I would guess at about a 25% survival rate cause tha bass are going to be hungry. Another guess, it will be 2 years before we see many 75cm barra again.

Looks like I am still going there on the christmas weekend guys so will still flog the water for Barra, might do some research on stocking history before I go has to be some barra still in there surely? Just humuor me guys cos I will get depressed on driving 4 hours just for bass:laugh:

[Feral]

There have been some reports of Barra being caught, but not many. ANyway you can always have a fish in the river, it has a healthy stock of Barra!

[Aaron H]

Feral wrote:

There have been some reports of Barra being caught, but not many. ANyway you can always have a fish in the river, it has a healthy stock of Barra!

Thanks feral for keeping my hopes up and I am keen to do a yak trip on the river while I'm there

[Oztrav]

the survival rate could be higher depending on the fingerling size obviously the 50mm models are fair game to the bass

but undisclosed size might be grown out models

thats what they do with sooties in the barra dams well some of em growem out so they are too much of a mouthful for em

[Feral]

Just think Brian your Dilemma is solved. Bring the Cruise craft for the salt, chuck your new yak in for Lenthalls!

[Fisher_90]

Feral watch out! You might get outfished by the yak folk.

[Feral]

Like that would be a new experience!

[rayke1938]

See that Big unit ( James Matts the ranger)is writing a lenthalls report in bush n beach. Says bass are on and a few barra being caught,

Cheers

Ray

[Aaron H]

Sweet, now I'm not getting my hopes up (the gods have been against me getting there lately) but with a little bit of luck we should be there next weekend for our prefish:P

[Brian D]

Yeah Ray but I could have written that from here. :S It's like stating the obvious, I mean \"There's cat fish in the Brissy River with a few Threadies being caught\".

[rayke1938]

we will just have to pick his brains when we are up there and hopefully get some local goss from fishntales site. There was a post there saying good bass on chrissy day.

Ray

[MichaelJ]

just noticed thread for brians 100 karma:blush:

[rayke1938]

It is starting to get close will soon need to confirm who is coming this is what I have so far.Definates

Ray, Feral. Ferg..Brian, Graham Pflaum.

Pencilled

Jimmybob,Terry,angus,Aaron.Kevin.

I think that Angus and Aaron will only stay for a couple of days.

Rent is $425 devided by number coming.

It would be good to have a bay boat there also. I am certain that some of the fishntales boys should be able to point us in the right direction for a feed of saltwater fish in case we get sick of hauling in barra and bass.

If some people wish to only come for a few days we can just work out a per day cost.

Highset and semiclosed in underneath, only disadvantage is its is too far to walk to shops, 3 bedroom, sleeps 7 1 queen,3ks singles and 2 singles, 2 bathrooms,microwave,dvd,fans big yard heaps of parking.

I have booked an extra day to allow for anyone who can only get the weekend off the option of 2 weekends to choose from. If anyone wishes to bring their partner they can have the queen size room otherwise its mine cause I booked it

Bacically it is byo sheets,pillowcases,towels,tea towels,food,detergent,toilet paper, bond of $500 and no pets, so sorry you wont be able to bring pet budgie.

Tuckerwise I will bring along a few frozen chicken/ pasta type meals.

Probably sangas for lunch on the dam.

Communal fry up of bacon and eggs for breaky.

Several fish meals.

Barby n beers other nights.

BYO soft drinks and beers.

I will bring along a couple of kegs of home brew.

Graham cant come as he is caravanning to Tassie but I will see if he will donate a bottle of his scotch for nightcaps.

I will have room for 2 deckies in my boat.

For people bringing their own boats just be aware that there is currently a strictly enforced limit of no two stroke motors greater than 6hp allowed on the dam.Exceptions are directly injected 2 stroke ( Etec and tohatsu) and 4 stroke 60 hp and under. This is checked at the gate and you will not be allowed to enter if your boat has a larger motor.

Aaron was up at lenthalls this weekend and said plenty of bass but no barra.

I have done a cut and paste from prev posts to bring it all together.

Cheers

Ray

[kevinchen19870316]

thanks rayke. it's time to stock up some barra size minnows/lipless cranks and slick rigs.

[Bommie]

A maybe from me for a few days but I won't know until towards the end of this month sorry, if that is not to late for you

[Brian D]

My holidays are in jeopardy. The payroll lady has gone off sick (LWOP) for 3-6 months and I can’t get a replacement if she does not quit. Arrrrrrrrr. I am gonna do a reshuffle and she if I can get someone trained in time but I doubt it.

Crap man – they are gonna pay for this.