opportunity to upgrade outboard (only 8 hours to decide)

[STKE]

I see online that their is a Hidea 40HP outboard Brand new up for auction from one of the auction companies.

I am well aware that this is the Brand of Chinese outboards that are now re-branded Maxus for whom which are made at the Parsun Factory.

I've done plenty of reading up on the Parsun outboards and other than brand bashing I haven't found an negative aspect.

Currently I have a 30hp Suz 2003 Model that is a bit under-powered for my boat.

Technically I could upgrade, sell of my old motor and possibly still be in the green.

Any quick thoughts before I either commit or miss out.

[Do$tylz]

no idea about the outboard brand but does your boat allow for the extra HP?

[STKE]

More research makes them look like they are imported and re-branded to Maxus Outboards http://www.maxusoutboards.com.au/

Yes boat will easily take the larger motor. it's a Old Clark abalon. I've seen them with 70's on the back lol.

[STKE]

Should probably mention that my Suz is Long shaft, Forward Controls & E Start + Aftermarket trim & tilt.

Chinese motor is also Forward, Long, E Start but as a bonus Tilt & Trim.

[STKE]

Well just bought myself a new outboard lol. I suppose $1500 for a 40hp with all the trimmings isn't so bad, brand new.

[rayke1938]

Sounds good.

Cheers

Ray

[kmcrosby78]

Sounds like a bl00dy great deal to me mate. Hope it serves you well - perhaps put a quick update and some pics up 6 months or a year down to track.

[STKE]

More have been listed although the 40 dosn't have the same spec's as the one i purchase

/>http://www.graysonline.com/sale/7117405/boats-marine-aircraft/unreserved-hidea-2-4-stroke-outboard-boat-motors?spr=true

I will keep it update. For one thing there is a lack of information in relation to usage on these motors. Everyone says their great but I've honest to god struggled to Google up an issue.

I guess it dosn't matter if you paid $1500 or $8000 for something gold plated the risks of buying a lemon are always there regardless.

Details on what I nabbed are here:

Hidea 40HP 2 Stroke Outboard Boat Motor

Model: HD40F FE L-T Electric Start - Forward Control Model Long Shaft Power Trim

Max.Output(kw)29.4

Full Throttle Operating Range(rpm) 4500-5500

Stroke 2 Cylinder 2 Displacement (cc) 703

Bore x Stroke(mm) 80 x 70

Length x Width x Height long shaft (mm) 1073 x 402x 1491

Weight (kg) L:73.6

Gear Shift Position F-N-R

lgnition System - CDl

Cooling System - Water-cooling

Starting System - Electric Starter

Control System- Front control

Lubrcation System - Gasoline & Machine Oil Regular Gasoline - 50:1

Capacity of Fuel Tank(L) - 24 (SN:HD40F FE L-T) (72414-1)

Same machine rebranded as Maxus retails for $4200

I will update with some box opening and installation picks as it happens. Will arrange to collect tomorrow.

[Luvit]

You have got to be happy with that price.

Less the cost of 2 services on mine. :S

The special K should move nicely with the extra house power.

See you on the Pine when it's fitted.

[Binder]

Excellent buy, have to treat it as disposable for that price. Get a year or two out of it and your laughing after that.

You can always keep the suzi in the shed for a couple of months until your happy your on a winner.

[STKE]

Definitely planning on keeping the suz intill its well run in.

[Parsun]

Hi STKZ

I can give a bit of useful information on the Maxus outboards. They are definitely NOT Parsun outboard motors. My company is the Australian distributor for Parsun. Before we took on the Parsun outboards we tested all other brands made in China to find the best. We did testing on Maxus (Hidea) These Maxus outboards have been sold in Australia by at least 8 other companies with not a lot of success. The original brand name is Hidea. When we tested these motors they were pluaged with problems. We found that they were using a lot of generator components in a marine application which just doesn’t work well. The companies bringing these into Australia keep changing the brand name to stay away from the bad rep. For example the company calling them Maxus this is the 3rd name change they have had with this brand since selling them here. Even the factory in china just this year has changed their name from hidea to seanovo.

By the looks of these Auctions it seems the company bringing in these motors are doing a fire sale so they may be pulling the pin. It doesn’t make sense to sell these under cost price unless they are closing down or need money.

I hope this helps readers of this forum with a little insight to these brands.

[STKE]

Thanks for been negative Nancy..........................

[Parsun]

Sorry for being a negative nancy. I just thought I'd give you some useful answers to your questions. By someone who has done the testing on these outboards and toured the factories.

[STKE]

Just couldn't wait till I got home before I opened her.

Here's the first lot of pic's

Boxed Pretty well. Doesn't look like it's new old stock as the stick tape looks newish (Don't ask how i can tell)

Guess I know where it came from

Free cable steering system :woohoo: Already got that in the boat.

Everything looks to be here. Quality wise looks good too, and feels good. Water intakes look a bit small though

Only issue looks like the tilt and trim system doesn't like been laid on it's side as the hydraulic oil has seeped. I'm not that considered as i already have an aftermarket CMC tilt and trim system that It will be mounted too.

Although I can't find where it's seeping whilst it's in it's box.

I have my engagement party this weekend so i'd be luck to mount it

[ellicat]

Looks good. Still a bargain catch ! Hope it gives you many years of good service.

[STKE]

Well an update would be nice

Motor is mounted and couldn't be happier.

I was unable to utilize my aftermarket tilt and trim as it was too small.

The new cable steering system and forward controls were easily installed with no dramas. However If anyone has any suggestions as to how to take the slack out it that would be great, I have like 10cm movement before it engages. I had this issue with the old one too.

Motor was easily installed too. No dramas which is not normal for me. (Actually it was scaring the shit out of me how easily everything worked)

When the motor was un-box I had a packed with spark plugs and water impeller kit. I had assumed that these needed to be installed but to my surprise these turned out to be spares. (winning)

The leak from the tilt and trim was only coming out of the the screw that allows you to raise and lower it when it's not working, so it just needed to be tightened. I might need to top it up thought. I assume that ATF fluid (DOT 3) would be the same.

Under the Cowling, quality looks and feels good. Plastics and rubbers do not feel like that cheap plastic either, so very happy there.

Had the opportunity to have everything hooked up and installed by Saturday Lunch time, so I had the rest of the day to run it in.

First 10 Mins in the Drive way not an issue (Sorry neighbors, this motor is substantially louder than my old one)

Spent the first hour in gear, lowers rpm just going back and forward around the junction in the pine.

Next hour was 1 min at Full RPM & 10 min 3/4 Throttle. Rince and repeat.

Had first set of 3rd hour run in of 5 min Full & 10 Min 3/4. But run out of fuel

No dramas with the run in, had a few odd looks though as I keep going past everyone.

Fuel consumption quite good only did 18ish liters before I had to call it. I assume that's not to bad of 2 1/2 hours of running around

Power wise, holy shit its like a completely different boat. Not only is it quieter than my old suz but it has so much more power. Not only that i had an issue where the motor would cavitate when I was doing sharp turns. Now I can turn on a dime at good amount of speed.

I will have one more day of running in before I go back to normally usage. I need to finish the 3rd~5 hours worth of running in before I can have normally usage. After 10 Hours I can go back to normal mixture ratio's and what ever usage.

So come when I'm happy with the new motor I will sell of the Old Suz with Both a Aftermarket Tilt and Trim & Steering Set up. Someone will be getting a bargain, will just have to decide on a price (any ideas)

Looking forward to Easter now:)

Before

[billp]

Looks like a great buy. Good one.

So are the maxius parts interchangeable with this one? I am guessing parts may be your only drama with the new motor.

[STKE]

Looks like a great buy. Good one.

So are the maxius parts interchangeable with this one? I am guessing parts may be your only drama with the new motor.

Maxius are the same thing. Yamaha parts are also interchangeable, so if worse comes to worst, I can get OEM.

[billp]

Sweet, you are on a winning wicket then.

[madbutcher]

Hi there just like to know how the motor is going thinking of getting one thanks........

[STKE]

Howdy!

So far so good. Got about 6 hours on it so far.

Real test will be over the Easter period. I only assume that if the motor was going to shit it's self. It would have done it by now.

[STKE]

Well An Update is in Order

Everything is so far so good. Up to 15 Hours use.

Used Constantly over the Easter long weekend at somerset

Had a couple of trips out to the Pine and Scarb Reef

Only issue to report is the Fuse keeps blowing out, can't quite figure why. I think the Connections from the Motor to the Battery get wet or the Tilt and Trim system overloads the Fuse. Not to concerned, fuses are cheap and it can still be pull started.

I've put the old one up for sale. I would like to think someone is going to get a bargain

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[madbutcher]

Great to hear hope you got into the fish over the Easter weekend thanks for the update......