Fuel tax subsidy removal petition.

[rayke1938]

As most Qld residents will know Anna The Goanna as well as selling off the states asets that you as residents and taxpayers own is proposing to remove the fuel tax subsidy which will increase the price of petrol and diesel by approx 9c per litre.

The RACQ is taking signatures for a petition against this move.

Here is the link. Please sign the petition if you care about your pocket.

http://www.racq.com.au/promotions/fuel_tax_subsidy_petition

Cheers

Ray

[Shrimpo]

She is a fool, another election promise out the window......

[shortie]

times are tough.

Only puts us the same as every other state. I dont really see what the gripe is about. We have had it good for a long time.

And no i dont and wont ever vote for Bligh.

Seems if we were in Victoria years ago when that state was in dia straights and the leave levy was abolished the same poeple would have a whinge. But Victoria was pulled out of the shit in a big way with some hard decisions.

[werewolf]

I don't know if the petition will achieve anything but either way I'm not happy. There is a lot of talk in the news about how grocery prices etc will "skyrocket", with increases up to 20%. Is this just fear mongering, or can anyone explain how 8 c/L increase to petrol (a few % to the transport cost, which is only a component of the total cost), equates 20% to the end consumer? Is it compounding the return margins or something?

[Do$tylz]

apparently we're getting fuel cheaper than NSW... but I was in Sydney yesterday and unleaded was at 95.8c at some stations.... dunno if it was the e10 variety or not. But its still cheaper than here by ~10c with the subsidy...

[werewolf]

unleaded is what 118 120 c/L here? I think we'll get boned regardless

[shortie]

i use 130 ltrs a week. at 10c extra. $13 a week more.

Big deal.

now the entire saving that that money can be used on Qld wide 1 billion $$$.

Now maybe we will get better hospitals road and water infrastructure.

There is way more involved in the decision making process than lets get more money from the people. Think big picture people before you jump on another petition or bandwagon or union.

These decisions are made for a reason.

[Dusky]

Welcome to NSW pricing of fuel guys!!

[werewolf]

shortie wrote:

These decisions are made for a reason.

The reason is her budget is the RED mate :laugh:

[shortie]

werewolf wrote:

shortie wrote:

These decisions are made for a reason.

The reason is her budget is the RED mate :laugh:

and so it the national budget and so is every ecomomy worth mentioning in the world currently.

[noname]

we are just getting bent over! for the fuel prices, the reason for the price rise a lil while ago was they would use the price of oil by the barrel, at nearly $170 a barrel, last i saw it was around the $60 a barrel. and not much of a drop. everything is going through the roof price wise and the quality has gone. just a rip.

[straddiebrad]

one way of taking our $900 bonus back.

[rayke1938]

I have only one vice and that is fishing and in particular fishing at NPD which entails approx 500 k per week plus other normal running around of about 100k.I make sacrifices to my living standards to indulge this passion.

I am on a pension that is set to go up by a magnificent $5 per week plus the fact that the Redlands Shonky Council has just sent me a letter that as I only receive 95% of the aged pension they are going to reduce my pensioner rate rebate by 33/1/3% so every cent counts.

I refuse to believe that Ana was not aware of what the state of the states finances were during the election campaign when she promised that the fuel tax subsidy was not in danger of being removed.

It is straight out fraud and lies and she should be held accountable.

Sorry about the sob story about my personal circumstances but I am stirred up.

Cheers

Ray

[billythakid]

there was a lady in front of me at the servo today crying about the price increase is going to hit her hard and she wont drive as much , then she whacks 2 600ml water bottles on the counter

wont pay $1.20 /ltr for petrol but didnt hesitate to pay almost $ 8.00 / ltr for bloody water that you can get at home from the tap ???

go figure :S

[roobs]

at the risk of copping flak, if you're that sensative about the price of petrol then look to alternate ways to travel. Be honest with yourself and ask if you have your second car for convenience or necessity and if all the trips you make need to be with your car. buy a bike or suprise yourself and catch a bus or god forbid, get a hybrid- you'd be suprised howcheap they are and the savings . people are dying for oil all over the world and the relative costs to us as end consumers aren't really comparable to the displacement of people in the developing world. be aware the pollution you put in the air ends up in the ecosystem and eventually on your plate. remember we're meant to be trying to heal some of the damage we've done to the world. tight lines.

[Fisherjoe]

not to mention how much petrol is watered down these days, compare the quality of opetrol from say woolies/coles servos etc to what it was 4-5yrs ago, youll notice that there are a lot more imopurities in it, the color is now almost clear, remember back in the day when it was a solid purpley color? i reckon they ut the e10 crap in evey pump and only "sell" it out of the 1 marked as e10 but we all get the same shit, like nore becasue of that e10 i can only run 98ron, or 95+octane booster, as the e10 has stuffed my engine a bit and causes major pinging, and holding off on a major rebuild becasue of the e10, i have to use the more expensive petrol,(so my mechanic tells me) which i may also add, back in the day remember premium was 2.2c more expensive then normal petrol? its now almost 20c more expensive for the saem crap !!

[bootyinblue]

Three things.....

If there has been cheaper petrol up here for some years, then how come commodities transported by petrol related vehicles have not been cheaper? Who has been pocketing the 'saving' there? Bringing petrol prices in line with other states, should not make our grocery bill skyrocket.

Ray - Dont apologise for having your whinge about it. Its always bring your back to Earth a little when you hear about how people on the pension have to manage their money.

I thought they must have been giving away petrol today as the servos were jammed all day. Does the subsidy come off tomorrow or something?

[kriso]

no it will come in at the end of the month, tues-wed are normaly the cheaper fuel days.

[popeye]

shortie wrote:

times are tough.

Only puts us the same as every other state. I dont really see what the gripe is about. We have had it good for a long time.

When saying this, don't forget that we also have close to, if not the highest rego fees in the country, that Bligh has only just increased only a month or two ago.

[ellicat]

Yep - our rego is approx 3 times that of Victoria.

Some points to add to the discussion -

1. The bearing on produce prices is not just affected by transport costs. For those that have never ventured outside the city limits it must be noted that farmers of this state use fuel in their machinery. The miners use machinery that requires fuel. Just about every input directly or indirectly relies on fuel. Businesses mark up on costs so an approximate 10% rise in fuel prices has a snowball flow on effect.

2. Queensland's population and business are considerably spread geographically in contrast to other states. This is why the subsidy was introduced.

3. Clearly the government has opted to overspend in the past, but has also made too many undeliverable promises for the future. Well, undeliverable on what they had in the bank when they made those shallow promises to win the last election.

4. Governments should look at their revenue then allocate funds to finance essential services - Health, Education, Police, Emergency Services, Roads, Rail, Power, Infrastructure etc, then what's left spend on the airy fairy crap like Goodwill bridges, football stadiums, green zones, arts & cultural, hard hats, blah blah blah

5. Increasing disposable income by reducing government imposts will see community spend their own money to get the airy fairy crap themselves.

6. The State treasurer vowed during the election campaign not to do what is now being done. The same election where they made the same promises they have failed to deliver on for the last 4 terms. (Except the Greenie payoff of course).

7. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for them.

8. Is it coincidence I didn't see a headgear wearing Premieress popping up in the Rugby League promotion this year with the tainted run it's having in the press, or maybe I just didn't see her whilst working hard to save up for next month's fuel bill ?

9. Go on - sign the petition ! [img size=239]http://www.australianfishing.com.au/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/images/anna_bligh-44f47faa73d749178f8621700eaca410.jpg

[shortie]

1. The bearing on produce prices is not just affected by transport costs.

Correct. As a lot of Qld's produce in fact comes from other states. These is brought to QLD in Trucks refuelled in the other states already paying more than we do here. So it should have less impact on produce prices. Scare mongering by media will blow this argument out of proportion. Because the media will do this it will certainly mean price rises now the supermarkets have been given an escape clause for when they do put the prices up.

[tugger]

the latest is the australian economy is the fastest growing in the developed world from the latest figures and thats due to the stimulus from spending for example the jobs created when large building infustructure is created . i bet the people who get jobs out of it all aren't complaining and the comunities that benifit from them but then we have to pay for it somewhere and you won't pleae evreyone all the time.politics aside it all helps us drag our country back from disasters created from other places in the world. the best financial minds say spend so in the end you got to pay it off and if its the fuel subsidy so be it. for a time we'll have to live a bit more modestly but if we don't make the hard decisions we could be like america (in the toilet)

thats my 2 cents worth

mark

[Davo_Dinkum]

yeah. u give them any reason to put prices up on stuff ,they run with it .

[hibberta]

Just on the Victorian rego. My latest rego from Victoria is going to cost me $593.80. My last Qld rego cost me $679.35.

[ellicat]

Hibberta, Talking about the government component only.

[Fisherjoe]

i dont see why food prices should increase, as the fuel subsidy ONLY covers petrol not deisel (so im told) and last time i checked tracters, trucks etc run on diesel, forklift on gas, etc so why should there be a price increase in the supermarket, the media is doing their job again at mass scare mongering by not tell the whole truth, and thus as davo mentioned, all the supermarkets need i an excuse like this to charge an $3.60 for a kg of tomatos inctead of $3.00

[rayke1938]

Marine Queensland today announced its support in joining RACQ and other major industry groups in a bid to fight the Queensland Government’s decision to scrap its fuel subsidy scheme.

Removing the current subsidy saving of 8.35 cents, plus GST, will amount to a tax increase of 9.2 cents on every litre of petrol and diesel.

Marine Queensland General Manager, Don Jones, said scrapping the subsidy would hit the owners of the State’s 230, 000 registered recreational vessels hard.

“This is from Marine Queensland

"When combined with the recent boat and vehicle registration increases, the removal of the fuel subsidy will cost Queensland’s boatâ€owning families at least several hundred dollars a year,†said Jones.

The last eighteen months have seen a growing number of Queensland residents choosing to holiday closer to home rather than engage in overseas travel. This trend has had a positive impact on the marine industry. Activities such as boating and fishing have become popular and affordable holiday alternatives. However, the government’s decision to remove its fuel subsidy will force many families to reâ€think their holiday plans.

“This decision will not only affect recreational boat owners, but will have a significant impact on Queensland’s marine industry as a whole. The marine tourism sector is going to be amongst the hardest hit,†stated Jones.

Making fuel more expensive through higher taxes is going to leave Queensland families and businesses, who are already doing it tough, with even less money to spend on other goods and services which will inevitably rise in price due to transportation costs.

Marine Queensland is urging Queenslanders to support the ‘Fight the Fuel Tax’ campaign by signing the online petition."

To those who have been sucked in by the argument that our fuel costs are already equal or more than NSW Just have a think about it. If this is correct do you think that the fuel companies are going to absorb the 9 cents from their profit margin?

If so i hope the tooth fairy will also look after you because Anna the Goanna wont.

Dearest car rego - worse roads in Aust.

Dearest boat rego bugga all facilities.

Now up with the dearest fuel.

Worse health system.Mate John Ford just been to Redlands hospital and is going to wait 9 months before he gets on the list to get on the specialists appointment. Estimated 2 to 3 years then before he can have replacement surgery.John was told that they have a nice little way of manulipating their waiting time stats. Apparently after you have been on the list for 6 months they write to you to see if you wish to remain on the list and they then start counting again from the date you reply.

All to pay for incompetence.

Cheers

Ray

[Do$tylz]

fisherjoe - yep.. shell premium (whatever its called... mind blank) is i think 12-15c more expensive than normal fuel. Other brands are only 10c more for their premiums (8000, vortex etc)

[shortie]

Wow Ray sounds like Qld is simply the worst place to live.

I wonder why 1000 + people a week are making SEQ home.

Maybe we all need to move to Victoria where we dont get leave loading.

[kriso]

righto fellas lets keep this going as a discussion not a personal thing

[kriso]

i'm sorta 50/50 on the whole thing, dont get me wrong i cant stand anna bligh, but its hard for me as im sitting sorta comfortable in relation to it as i have a fully maintained company vehicle and while i dont make alot of coin i certainly dont struggle. i can see anyone that is allready stretched for cash as it is pensioners,unemployed etc it would suck cause lets face it anyone will use what ever excuse they can to bump prices up and now they just got one. also one of her main promises to stay in that seat was that she would not get rid of the subsidy. i do understand though that the states bank account has seen better days, i personaly hate the fact they spent shite loads on building another bridge to go from the city to GOMA. whats wrong with the foot path on the one 200 metres up the road? im sure that coin could of been put to alot better use.

[Brian D]

These friggin turds have ordered an audit on my fuel sales from 2004 till 30/4/9. They are looking for false claims of fuel sales over 2000 litres.

They won't find any in my time but they will cost me big in labour costs as the management before me did not use a computised system and had crap records which have been achieved.

The OSR is just have a last minute grab for cash before the scheme is scrapped. It will be cheaper to broker a deal and pay a fee to avoid having to spend heaps of money and time digging up acrhieved records that may or may not be there.

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr turds

I think all pensioners should get a rebate on all fuel, gst, rates, utilities and food. The ATO takes from em every week during work years why not leave the poor buggers alone in retirement.

Now I know why Qld state of origin team cheat, they have learnt it from the State Govm't. Screw me one more time Anna.

[rayke1938]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Fisherjoe]

just for arguments sake kriso, the briges are as a result of can-do-cambell therefore city council, not the state, so the money for those things comes out of our house rates rather then all the other taxes and regos that the state government takes from us

[buzzid]

shortie wrote:

i use 130 ltrs a week. at 10c extra. $13 a week more.

Big deal.

now the entire saving that that money can be used on Qld wide 1 billion $$$.

Now maybe we will get better hospitals road and water infrastructure.

There is way more involved in the decision making process than lets get more money from the people. Think big picture people before you jump on another petition or bandwagon or union.

These decisions are made for a reason.

well said shortie,

our taxes have been paying for this subsidy anyway so don't think for a minute we've been getting a free ride. my only concern is that captain bligh is asleep at the tiller and the subsidy money will be washed overboard like the rest of the money raised during the boom times. fair dinkum, if this state was a publicly listed company people would be going to jail.

buzz...

[werewolf]

probably more concerning is the possible sell off of state owned assets like QR, Queensland Motorways, Port of Brisbane etc. Sure the firesale would pull in some big $$$ up front, but what about the black hole of the income they produce once the economy returns to normal?

LOL the **** is a.s.setts.

[John]

werewolf wrote:

probably more concerning is the possible sell off of state owned assets like QR, Queensland Motorways, Port of Brisbane etc. Sure the firesale would pull in some big $$$ up front, but what about the black hole of the income they produce once the economy returns to normal?

hear hear!

[bootyinblue]

Exactly right there... its always a concern when something like that is underway!

[Shrimpo]

Johnny wrote:

werewolf wrote:

probably more concerning is the possible sell off of state owned assets like QR, Queensland Motorways, Port of Brisbane etc. Sure the firesale would pull in some big $$$ up front, but what about the black hole of the income they produce once the economy returns to normal?

hear hear!

x10

[Davo_Dinkum]

u know have the same price fuel as the rest of that states ok ,can handle that.

having dearer rego and boat rego etc .got shit boat ramps and shit roads etc .that wrong if we pay more we should at leas have the same quality .

i have driven cars from both air ports to around Melbourne and around Melbourne a bit.the road i where on down there where pretty got to what we got here.

always new and interesting stuff when topic like this come up.