Had it up to here!!!!!

[BIG DAVE 1]

Oxley creek is a bloody good fishing spot. it has its own council pontoon and everything. Allthough on day some wanker decided to put up a sign. Anyways since then we \"havent\" ment to fish off there. Allthough today we went down there and out of no where some a$$hole came down and fired up at us. So as a true fisherman i fired up too. Anyways after a while he started threating us with calling the council so we moved. I hate this crap. its beyond a joke. FISHERMAN HAVE RIGHTS TOO! And im guna show this dude. i am going to organise a peace full protest in the near future. Apparently these canoers have get togethers every now and then so i am going to get some blow up boats and canoes and tie them onto the pontoon and fish from them. in teh process i will get int eh way of the canoers as much as i possibly can. If anyone is keen to stand up for this worthy cause let me know.

DAVE

[Tim a]

COUNT ME IN! I mite bring some strong line and try catch one!

But just remember davo by doing this we may get an even worse public name. And then the council may never build us our own pontoons:(

Just be carefull! (but still count me in!)

Tim

[dom...]

hell yeh man i was planning a big session there this sat and if i get told off im gonna bee soo cut

[Aaron H]

Stick it up em Dave there is not enough land based fishing sites around to have them close the pontoons

[ando_04]

should of punched him dave

[BIG DAVE 1]

MAte some of u know the extent of today thats why im so pissed off, if anyone wants to know exactly what happened pm ur number and ill give u an exact recound abuse and all.

DAVE

[Cowfish13]

What, are you saying that we're not allowed to fish there any more?

[BIG DAVE 1]

MAte if u get caught down there by the guys from the scout house. the will abuse you and threaten u with calling the council and or cops.

DAVE

[Gerty_92]

man its weird heaps of these guys from there come down onto the plontoon and dont give a shit when im there...i even watch mud and shit off me at the tap...so WTF????

[Feral]

Mate if it says no fishing, that means no fishing. Carrying on like a pork chop is not going to improve the public image of fisherman.

SUre peaceful protest is fine, but burring up coz someone has the hid to ask you obey th elaw is a bit stiff.

Would you like to be abused if you pointed out to someone they were taking undersized fish?

A Polite \"gee sorry mate\", then move on is the way to go.

Then go see you local councillor and ask why fishermen are excluded from using the public facility, get Gary to see if his mates in the fishing party can do something about some lobbying etc etc. Get onto some of the local fishing celebs, like Brownie or Dave Downey, see if they can take up the cause on there shows.

Reports to the council of members of the public being abused by fisho's will not help the cause - trust me.

[Gerty_92]

Thats a good idea feral...

[Mick]

Point out the removal of ferals from the creek system ..... show pics of carp etc....

[BIG DAVE 1]

Mate, we move when they ask us but when the come down say \"Cant you F**KING READ NO FISHing!\" and constantly say F**K and abusing you im not going to sit back and cop it. If he came down and said look mate you cant fish here its a safety thing i would have been cool. the funny thing is more fisherman use that pontoon the actual canoers. It may sound like i went over the top but if you were they i bet you would have done the same. I was tempted to lodge a complaint towards canoeing qld but its not worth it. there probs all the same.

DAVE

Post edited by: BIG DAVE 1, at: 2006/09/20 20:53

[Feral]

Dave,

Your still technically a \"child\" ( I am not being insulting here - read on! ) so get your old man, or even better your mother, to ring up and complain that their \"young son\" was subjected to foul language, abuse and threats. And get him to do it to the Canoe mob, the local councilor, see if the canoe mob have any sponsors, if they do ring them to! Sponsors love to hear from members of the public that they are being associated with that sort of thing! (Sarcasm there!)

Dont do it yourself, or it will be obvious you are not exactly a \"young son\" anymore!

Get in first! Its politics that will win the battle for you, not confrontation! (Unless you want to engineer something for videoing by a mate to take to show those sponsors!)

Post edited by: Feral, at: 2006/09/21 05:44

[BIG DAVE 1]

well what we were guna do is take a video camera there and hide it in the bushes so if someone comes down and abuses us again we have it on film and we might send it a to a few people.

DAVE

[BIG DAVE 1]

I called the brisbane city council today and they stated we were not allowed to fish there. but he said if the guy was abusing you thats inapropriate, he said that CANOEING QLD has no lease on that pontoon so they cant tell u off under any sercumstanses. that is a council job. So they are going to contact these guys and ask some questions.

DAVE

[Mick]

BIG DAVE 1 wrote:

I called the brisbane city council today and they stated we were not allowed to fish there. but he said if the guy was abusing you thats inapropriate, he said that CANOEING QLD has no lease on that pontoon so they cant tell u off under any sercumstanses. that is a council job. So they are going to contact these guys and ask some questions.

DAVE

Did he give a reason to the no fishing policy???

[BIG DAVE 1]

No he didnt unfortunatly. But he did say that there were some fishing pontoons being built at comslie and cameron rocks. which is near breakfast creek i think.

DAVE

[dom...]

so if the canoe people come down and tell me off should i just ignore them and say...you dont own this place....or should i just go

[Terry H]

Man, I'm so tempted to go down there with all my fishing gear and just parking it all on the pontoon. Few buckets, bait, sp rod, sharking gear, gen purpose gear, cast nets, etc etc... and then just sitting in my inflatable boat (tie it up to the pontoon).

That way, I'm fishing from my boat, not the pontoon!

So basically, if I had time, I'd do the same thing as what you said dave...

On the other hand Dave, the signs are there for a reason. If someone asks you to leave, then you should, regardless of whether the person asked nicely.

Post edited by: TerryH, at: 2006/09/21 17:49

[BIG DAVE 1]

if i had my time again when the said they were guna call the council i should have been liek good and then bailed when they got there. Justsay mate this isnt your canoe you dont have a lease for it. i thinkign about apply for a lease.

DAVE

[dom...]

come down and do that on sat terry..........

and i always see familys fishing there like regularly

cheers dom

[BIG DAVE 1]

and thats what pisses me off a family cant go down and have a family day fishing cause some guyswant to go for a paddle in ther boats.

DAVE

[Brian D]

Good call Terry

Another idea would be to take all our fishing gear down there and just sit on the jetty.

Take a few tinnie sand have a piss up!

[BIG DAVE 1]

I like both ideas!

DAVE

[caty]

Well my attitude is not to be confrontational about the issue but to address the needs and concerns of the canoe club such that they are not threatened. I was down there the other night and another guy (probably one of you on the forum be cause he told me about this site) well he got to washing the mud from his cast net off the pontoon, he said he didn’t want to make it a mess because the club didn’t like it. Cant help but think that if every fisherman had such an amicable attitude there would be no problem.

I have had people there launching canoes but I pull my lines in and make room for them, consequently they were friendly in return and said I could stay. But if someone threatens you, you have the right to defend yourself. I can tell you now that someone will get a big surprise if they think they can physically intimidate me because I am alone and isolated. Having said that I agree with feral. Politics will win the battle for a simple reason. More people with more money like fishing. Its activating them and getting results that is the art. The confrontation idea is not a good one, satisfying perhaps but ultimately counter productive. The canoes club members and fishermen have a lot in common that the average Brisbaneite does not . That is we both love the river. Perhaps to stir the imagination I will suggest that the canoe club could aid in lobbying for construction of a fisherman’s pontoon. (naturally any canoes found near such a pontoon will be immediately sunk )