Which Baicaster???

[Wilson]

G'day All

Haven't posted in a while (haven't had much to post about), It looks like I'll be getting BCF vouchers for my b/day next month and I reckon it's gonna be about the $250.00 mark. I'm looking to get myself a decent baicaster to pair up with my 6'3" Pfluger Trion, I have the Pfluger Echlon on it at the moment but I just can't seem to cast a decent distance(over 40 feet) with lighter lures (3-5g) no matter what setting I have it on. But mainly to cast Spinner baits and poppers. I do have a spin outfit that that could most likely out cast all of the below but I just love using baitcasters. The Baicasters around that range I am looking at are,

Daiwa Tierra

Daiwa Viento

Daiwa HRF

Daiwa Sol (very big maybe)

Pfluger Trion

Pfluger President

Pfluger Summit (very big maybe)

Abu Revo STX

Shimano Curado

Shimano Cruxis

I have never used any of these reels (only played with them in the shop) so I have no idea which way to go, so any info on these or any other reels would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Greg

[Dan23]

The Sol would be the most suitable for lighter lure casting.

[Cowfish13]

What weight line are you going to put on it? and what fish are you going to target with it?

[kevinchen19870316]

nothing but sol!

but it's defi not a easy thing to cast 3grms weight 30m.

[shortie]

Very happy with my HRF.

[Wilson]

I would love the sol Dan23 but I think it's just outside my price range.

Cowfish13, I would be going about 8lbs and mainly chasing bass and yellas bot rivers and dams.

[kevinchen19870316]

i won't get anything but sol,stx(need to be tuned to cast 3grms) and HRF( zpi spool needed to cast 3grms). so if ur getting anything that's not a sol on ur list, u will have to spend 100-150 more to get the reel tuned for lighter application

[Nastymind]

For a baitcaster - HRF

[Cowfish13]

Depending on the shape of the lure, the Curado, President and Viento can all cast 3grams. The others almost definatey can, but I've never used them so I'm not sure on their performance.

My President can cast an Ecogear CK40 (5g, fat lure) very very easily. Usually have to cut off my cast when fishing in streams:) I can get alot of distance with it. I can also cast a Smith Camion (2.7g, fat lure) about 10m or so.

I have no idea what Kevin is talking about with extra tuning of the reel:S I've never heard of doing that. Can you explain it Kevin?

[Dan23]

Cowfish13 wrote:

Depending on the shape of the lure, the Curado, President and Viento can all cast 3grams. The others almost definatey can, but I've never used them so I'm not sure on their performance

I have no idea what Kevin is talking about with extra tuning of the reel:S I've never heard of doing that. Can you explain it Kevin?

Check out the tuning parts on Bass.jp and those sorts of sites. You can upgrade your spools to be lighter and get fancy handles etc.

[kevinchen19870316]

all reels except the sol have deep or heavy spool(12-18grms) so a lighter/shallower spool's needed for low starting inertia. ZPI offers some super light spools (9-11grms)for light rig casting.

most reels can cast 3grms weight but not all of them can really put a bait that light a good distance. for light lure casting, i'd rate presso and shimano conquest 50s( shallow spool special) the best factory original casters but with an ZPI light shallow spool, they can handle 1.5grms easily. amoung the reels he's listing, the best will be sol. the others r good casters for lures around 5grms minimum.

[Cowfish13]

Ah k, I understand now:)

Cheers:cheer:

[shortie]

Also for reel tuning look here.

/>http://www.fishingmonthly.com.au/softly/reeltuning.html

/>http://www.ultimatebass.com/content/view/72/83/

/>http://super-tuning.home.mindspring.com/i1.html

This 1 is very interesting

[Dan23]

Some tackle bling for all you rice boys out there. The fishing equivilent to a spoiler kit, rear wing, mags and boost gauges lol:lol:

/>http://www.bass.jp/reel.php?c=reelp

/>http://www.japantackle.com/Tuning_parts/Tuning_handles_Daiwa_spinning.htm

/>http://www.japantackle.com/Tuning_parts/Tuning_spools_daiwa_spinning.htm

[Wilson]

Cheers Guys, thanks for your help.

[Schultzy]

Greg,

I own all three of the Pfluegers you mention.

The Summit is fantastic but may be out of your price range.

My Trion has been in use for three or four years and casts light lures well for me. Defintiley worth considering if your tackle dollar is limited.

[pcsolutionman]

Mate if I was you I would try and get your birthday money in cash instead of a bcf voucher. that way you could easily afford a Sol if you imported one from the US. I have a Pixy and havnt cast anything that will throw little light lure as far. I can throw a strike pro Pygmie over 25M

Lee

[kevinchen19870316]

lee, pixy's one of the best light rig caster available! if only they were SW ok and had 4 more ball bearings, i wouldn't even consider the calais 100a

[pcsolutionman]

Yeah I wish they were Sw ok too. what reel do you reckon would come the closest to the pixie for casting light weights that is SW ok??

Lee

[kevinchen19870316]

lee, if ur good at reel tuning and don't mind spending extra. get a shimano conquest 50s ( or 51s for LH) and change the 12 ball bearings to CRBB or ARB( though u may only change 2 spool ball bearings if u clean ur reel every time after use).

conquest 50s will cast light rigs even better than pixy BTW

[Wilson]

Schultzy,

I have only owned the Echlon for about 5 months and it hasn't had that much use so it may be that I need a little practice, but I do like the look of the summit and I may be able to come up with the extra $$$.

pcsolutionman

Getting the money instead of the vouchers maybe an option, can the Sol be used in SW?

Cheers

[Plastic Man]

greg stu has the tierra and he likes it all the talk of 3 grams you wont be needing that for the bass fishing you will be doing if you cant get the sol go the tierra if you are going to be fishing light just use your spin that what there for

[Shrimpo]

I've heard good things about the Tierra aswell, I think in the Daiwas their all pretty good in that price range.

[reef_raider]

personally id go the sol just because i prefer the look and performance of it over the others.. only thing is its a lot more pricey than something like the tierra

[kevinchen19870316]

sol's built to last and to perform while most others r built with economy in mind

[Wilson]

Cheers all, well I made my mind up to go the the little extra and go for the Sol and then I come across an article about the Fuego which claims to be a little better having the Magforce-Z(Instead of V), heavier drag and holds more line, put still has the same casting and retrieving abilities. Has anyone used a Fuego?? I think I'll still go the Sol.

Cheers

Greg

[kevinchen19870316]

casting( light) terrible(fuego) very good(sol)

casting (general) very good(fuego) excellent(sol)

retreive smooth(fuego) smooth(sol)

drag ordinary(fuego) ordinary(sol)

line capacity large(fuego) as with all td-zs(sol)

weight over 200(fuego) sub200(sol)

SW? fw ONLY (fuego) SW OK but more care need to be taken(sol)

[Gazza]

I got one of these coming from Bass pro

/>http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_91075_100001001_100000000_100001000_100-1-1

Hope the link works

anyways got it on special 146 Au delivered :woohoo:

Gaz

[Cowfish13]

Kevin: How can you tell whether a reel can be used in salt water? Does it say on their website?

[Shrimpo]

Gazza thats a reely nice reel

[Dan23]

Gazza wrote:

I got one of these coming from Bass pro

/>http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_91075_100001001_100000000_100001000_100-1-1

Hope the link works

anyways got it on special 146 Au delivered :woohoo:

Gaz

That reel looks sweet!

[Dan23]

Cowfish13 wrote:

Kevin: How can you tell whether a reel can be used in salt water? Does it say on their website?

Look on Japantackle and it usually says if they are SW ok or just do a little googling and you can usually find out. A lot of JDM reels are FW only because they are mainly for the Bass market. It is mainly about the bearings which could be replaced in some reels to make them semi SW ok. Also if they are MG then SW is risky.

[kevinchen19870316]

the easiest but not the most reliable way's to look up on the net.

or u can find out what ball bearings and frames they come with. usually ARB or CRBB means a reel's SW OK. and aluminium reel's safter to use in SW than magnisium reels.

[Dan23]

Check out this review

/>http://www.tackletour.com/reviewpfluegersupremebaitcaster.html

[Gazza]

Well it arrived today 6 days after ordering it from the US

Browning Midas MI10sha low profile Baitcaster 7.1:1 10 ss ball bearing Man is it smooth Haven't tried it out yet getting Braid for it tomorrow

Try it out on friday some where

heres some pics

I'm impressed if you haven't guessed :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

Gaz

[Shrimpo]

Looks gun.

[ellicat]

Looks good Gaz. Will look better with a bit of blood on it though:woohoo:

[kevinchen19870316]

the next thing's trying to get some fish smell on it.

that's a fine reel to start with, nice score

[jeff f]

got to checkout gazzas browning this arvo and it's one hell of a sweet reel the freespool is amazimg and the drag...all i can say is WOW

[Nitris]

HRF for value for money.. even cheaper off ebay.!!!!!!:woohoo: