queensland Electric motors for a 250

[Mylesfisher]

Hello, I have recently been thinking about upgrading my tinny a friend showed me a 250 with a great casting deck for 1300 I have planned on cleaning my 310 up and buying it I am planning on putting a electric motor with foot pedals Im wondering what amount of money it would be for what i am asking about. 

[ellicat]

What's a 250 and 310 ?

[Gad]

5 minutes ago, ellicat said:

What's a 250 and 310 ?

a 60 difference.... next easy question please

 

[Gad]

10 minutes ago, ellicat said:

What's a 250 and 310 ?

Mylesfisher, meanings can be a little hard to interpret, at times. I'm assuming he means 2.5 metre tinny and a 3.1 metre tinny... if not, only he knows 

[ellicat]

3 minutes ago, Gad said:

I'm assuming he means 2.5 metre tinny and a 3.1 metre tinny

I'm hoping not, seeing as he intends to fish the Seaway ! haha

[Mylesfisher]

Lol sorry i meant a 350 explorer and a 250 explorer not a 310 lol but what electric trolling motor would be good for this boat with a footpetal and what price would it be ill refer to 350s as 3.5m and 250s as 2.5m lol

[Mylesfisher]

Have you seen the seaway Ill go out on a good day

 

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

8 minutes ago, Mylesfisher said:

Have you seen the seaway Ill go out on a good day

 

Still probably not the best idea in a 2.5m tinny - the weather won’t be your problem but the boat wake will! 
 

I think it depends on your battery size and engine size but anywhere from a couple hundred - 1000+ could be your cost to get an electric.

Hamish 

[Mylesfisher]

Ok then what electric motor with pedals would you reccomend

[Gad]

17 minutes ago, Mylesfisher said:

Have you seen the seaway Ill go out on a good day

 

hmmm.... 'on a good day' does not equate with knowledge of water movement, water pressure/force, tidal influences, etc, coming and going out through a narrow exit/entry point.... just saying

[Mylesfisher]

Umm have you been to the seaway? Its not that bad. Also can you answer my previous question please

[Angry51]

42 minutes ago, Mylesfisher said:

Umm have you been to the seaway? Its not that bad. Also can you answer my previous question please

Myles, You should take the comments in the spirit they are given, everyone is only

concerned about safety.

You are a young fella and have a different outlook as we all did at your age.

We care about every ones safety on here. We don't need to lose any members

due to safe practice.

 

Take care.

[kmcrosby78]

1 hour ago, Angry51 said:

Myles, You should take the comments in the spirit they are given, everyone is only

concerned about safety.

You are a young fella and have a different outlook as we all did at your age.

We care about every ones safety on here. We don't need to lose any members

due to safe practice.

 

Take care.

Very much agree. A 2.5m boat is VERY small and I'd assume would have limited freeboard. The problem with 'good days' is that forecasts can be wrong and conditions can change very quickly, both for wind speed and also direction. Add to that large tidal flow and as others have posted, often very busy boat traffic and the water can turn into a washing machine VERY quickly. I personally wouldn't be going anywhere near the main Seaway area in a 2.5m boat, just not worth it.

It would be worth putting a picture up of your 310 Explorer as some one here may be able to offer suggestions to improve your current set up.

[Another Wazza]

2 hours ago, Mylesfisher said:

Ok then what electric motor with pedals would you reccomend

Hi Myles, there are a few electric motor manufacturers, Minn Kota, Motor Guide, Watersnake, your best bet would be get in touch with the people who stock and sell them, tell them what you require and the size of your boat, then they’d be able to tell you what the cost of your desired set up would be, easy really.

[Mylesfisher]

12 hours ago, Angry51 said:

Myles, You should take the comments in the spirit they are given, everyone is only

concerned about safety.

You are a young fella and have a different outlook as we all did at your age.

We care about every ones safety on here. We don't need to lose any members

due to safe practice.

 

Take care.

I do care about my safety and do have the safety gear on my boat if something goes wrong the thing is is that I’ve seen people on kayaks go to the seaway and my mates have easily gone on 310s I do realise though how ugly the surf can get I’ll ask some more qualified tinny fishos on how safe it is out at the seaway 

[Tuna are fish]

2 hours ago, Mylesfisher said:

seaway 

ok, first thing, what is the seaway (not joking).  also why would you sell the 3.5 would it not be better to chuck a 6hp or something on it, it would get you further, but as said before, it is not very safe even on a good day unless you plan everything, such as when the tide is going out the current will change and make it harder to come back in, so if you are going to go make sure you time it.  and keep safe

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

1 hour ago, Tuna are fish said:

ok, first thing, what is the seaway (not joking).  also why would you sell the 3.5 would it not be better to chuck a 6hp or something on it, it would get you further, but as said before, it is not very safe even on a good day unless you plan everything, such as when the tide is going out the current will change and make it harder to come back in, so if you are going to go make sure you time it.  and keep safe

Gold Coast Seaway. It's an entrance to the ocean from the Gold Coast Broadwater. (bar)

@Mylesfisher, I spoke to an experienced fisher who fishes the Seaway in a 3.5M. He says he wouldn't go in a 2.5M and doesn't often/doesn't fish at the end of the Seaway. He also has a 20HP on the back of his tinny which is a fair bit more power then a six HP.

Cheers Hamish

[turdle]

8 hours ago, Mylesfisher said:

I’ve seen people on kayaks go to the seaway

Kayaks are very different to a Tinny. You can paddle a kayak out through the breaking surf no worries. You would be stupid to take any tinny through breaking surf. A kayak wont take on water and capsize. If a tinny takes on any water you will be very unstable, and have a good chance of capsizing. All it takes is one wave that catches you off guard, and you're in a lot of trouble.

You say that this 2.5m tinny has a great casting deck. That's all good to have a casting deck, but is it actually usable? I'd imagine standing anywhere but the middle of a 2.5m tinny would be very unstable, and not comfortable to fish from. The casting deck raises your centre of gravity, and on such a small craft, that is a terrible idea. That's probably why its for sale, it's useless. Add an electric bow mount motor and battery like you're planning and it would be even more unstable. Also if you don't have a RMDL you are limited to 6hp, which wont move you at any great speed. If you cannot start your motor for any reason while in the seaway, and the tide is running out, you're rooted. If you don't have comprehensive insurance on it, you risking losing your boat, and all your gear by taking the risk of fishing beyond your boats (and your) limits. Worst case you're risking your life!

Why trade your 3.5m tinny in for a smaller less capable boat? You won't be able to fish with your mates in a 2.5m tinny, you'll have to fish solo. Stick with your current boat. Stick with your 6hp motor. Don't worry about fishing the seaway for bigger fish at the moment, hone your skills on smaller fish in safer waters. Use the fishing tackle you already have and just enjoy fishing. Save your money, and in a couple of years you should have enough for a bigger motor on your 3.5m and add an electric motor then. 

There is plenty of great places to explore around the broardwater, canals, and rivers with your current boat and gear. Instead of trying to target jewies, mackerel and kingies, why not focus on jacks, and big lizards? 

Save your $, stick with what you already have, enjoy fishing and look at upgrading your boat/gear in a couple of years when you have your RMDL.

[turdle]

Also the 250 explorer is only rated to 5hp, so you would have to sell your 6hp and get a new motor as well. Just sounds like so much trouble to sell everything you have to downgrade to a smaller, less capable boat, just to go a little bit faster. 

As you can see in the picture below. ITS TINY!. The bare boat with nothing in it will only do 11 knots with one person. Add fishing gear, fuel tank, electric motor, battery etc. and you will probably max out at 8 knots.

These boats are designed for getting your from your mooring to the shore in protected water, or for fishing small creek and estuaries. Even the broadwater on a moderately windy day, would be dangerous in this boat. If you even tried venturing into the seaway the VMR would likely come and tell you off and tow you out of there. The more likely scenario would be getting swamped by a passing pleasure cruiser and sinking as soon as you leave the 6 knot zone in the broadwater.

[Junky]

Surely this is a Gee Up thread.

If not....

A 250 is a tender for a larger boat. My car topper is bigger. 

Don't mean to sound rude but you're way out of your depth, pun intended. 

Calm days spells busy waterways. 

 

One Riviera heading out on the plane will see you most likely in the drink. 

2 Riviera's side by side heading out.... You're gone. 

It happens regularly. 

 

Ask around the "tinnie fisho's" like you said you would and if anyone of them advises you to go ahead then they are absolute (bad words). 

 

Don't do it! 

[Mylesfisher]

Yeah ill stick with my 350 sorry for my stupidity

[Junky]

On 09/05/2022 at 1:07 PM, Mylesfisher said:

Yeah ill stick with my 350 sorry for my stupidity

Don't ever be sorry bud. 

It's called knowledge. You've learnt something here. 

Pay it forward so to speak. That's all I am doing. 

 

I for one am glad you have made the correct decision. 

Now go out and slay some fish. 

[kmcrosby78]

1 hour ago, Junky said:

Don't ever be sorry bud. 

It's called knowledge. You've learnt something here. 

Pay it forward so to speak. That's all I am doing. 

 

I for one am glad you have made the correct decision. 

Now go out and slay some fish. 

Yep, better to ask a possibly silly question than not ask it and potentially lose your life in a boat not suitable to the conditions. And now you have the knowledge to potentially steer others in the right direction if they are pondering the same thing.

[Mylesfisher]

yeah 

[Mylesfisher]

Hello all just an update I went to Gold Coast boat show for some quotes and found a good electric motor it’s the water snake geo spot looks good I also chose a carpet or decking for my casting deck and interior of my 350 it’s called sea deck I bought 300 dollars worth of it and it is 2x1m I am going to setup a aluminium frame and put it on And mg budget is 2500 the deck and the motor is 2000 cheers, Myles

[Mylesfisher]

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[rayke1938]

do not forget to budget for battery and charger

 

[Mylesfisher]

Ok