queensland Out There Fishing Charter 18th November 2007

[bootyinblue]

Yep I am on to it. Have done a draft and had it re jigged and will send it out tomorrow morning to have a look at.

Shortie - I am not on a witchhunt to run this guy out of town or anything, but I do not want to shell out my cash for such service. If no one says anything he may just continue on thinking his service is adequate. If the group before us got the same service and said something, maybe things might have been better for us. I think we owe it to other mug punters who have booked charters down the track with him to give him the heads up to get his ship in order.

Brian D & Laurie - Will send in the morning.

[Brian D]

Well said Booty, I'll support that approach. I also like your idea of sending on behalf of us and not AFO members.

Karma for your work mate, it's not easy organizing stuff like this. Thanks for your efforts.

[faulked]

mate this much work certainly deserves a kick in the karma:P

[AlsHilux]

Well it's all been said, great expectations, very little results!

But, there are definately people that did an awesome job of organising this trip that deserve kudos, beer and karma.. Loz, well picked, the boat looked awesome and went the same! Booty, cheers for sorting out all the cash, especially me an tims' late transaction.. sorry dude!

All the lads on the day, it was great to meet you all!

Lee, dude I thought you looked familiar, but didn't recognise you, my bad. I guess it was a lot darker when we went whiting fishing in Bribie passage!

Oh, and I think old mate skipper should get reported. He was pretty ******* slack, and others have said I feel a bit stung, but if the crap really hit the fan and something bad happened to a future charter group because we didn't speak up I'd feel pretty poorly.

cheers!

[Feral]

Crap, forgot all about the charter and only just looked up the thread.

What can I say, dissapointing, no fish is no fish, but would have been nice to have a decent shot at it.

Brian, bad luck mate, you buy a real car and suffer for it, the old Xtrail's have plastic guards and probably would not have recorded a mark.

[Gazza]

Was he the owner or just an employed skipper ?

Gaz

[ellicat]

Seeing as how he was actually there I'm thinking it's his boat.:ohmy: (home maybe:huh: )

[shortie]

He told me he was the owner.

[bootyinblue]

Certificate of registration is made out to him at his home address.

[Brian D]

Yeah let’s all leave our families, sell the house, buy a charter boat and become a looser just like him, great life, Karma to him.:S

I can tell you guard 25 has been removed from his post. Lee it is not too late to press charges.

Liquor licensing are going up Fisho's big time and they (Fisho's management) have agreed to fix my car. Securities line has been drawn back to the Taverns boundaries so what happened will not happen again.

Next I will wait for Booty to get a response from his letter. That response will determine if I go to the Waterway authorities, Marina management and the Water Police.

It's OK ...I am not bitter.

[Dan23]

Brian D wrote:

Yeah let’s all leave our families, sell the house, buy a charter boat and become a looser just like him, great life, Karma to him.:S

I can tell you guard 25 has been removed from his post. Lee it is not too late to press charges.

Liquor licensing are going up Fisho's big time and they (Fisho's management) have agreed to fix my car. Securities line has been drawn back to the Taverns boundaries so what happened will not happen again.

Next I will wait for Booty to get a response from his letter. That response will determine if I go to the Waterway authorities, Marina management and the Water Police.

It's OK ...I am not bitter.

We're all on your side Brian Good on you for getting them to pay damages. Now you just have to go without a car for a week while they fix it. Worst part about it all really.

[Feral]

hopefully the ol magnet will do the job. They did mine for hail damage and it looks like new!

[bootyinblue]

Faxed the letter today, seeking a written response within 21 days to my home addess.

Guess its just a waiting game now....

[ellicat]

I suspect he'll respond with a letter inside a Christmas card (to save $0.05 on the postage) :whistle:

[bootyinblue]

ellicat wrote:

I suspect he'll respond with a letter inside a Christmas card (to save $0.05 on the postage) :whistle:

And he may need every 5c he can save if it all turns nasty. Currently in QLD a penalty unit is $75. So $75 x 500 = $37500. Considering its a maximum penalty, times it by 0.1 (cynical I know) its still $3750

41 General safety obligation of ship owners and masters

about condition of ships

(1) The owner and master of a ship must not operate the ship

unless the ship is safe.

Maximum penaltyâ€â€500 penalty units or imprisonment for 1

year.

(2) However, if the contravention of subsection (1) causes a

marine incident involving the death of, or grievous bodily

harm to, a person, the owner and master commit an indictable

offence and are liable to a maximum penalty of 5000 penalty

units or imprisonment for 2 years.

(3) For the purposes of this section, a ship is safe if it is

seaworthy, and is appropriately equipped and crewed, to meet

the ordinary perils of the voyage on which the ship is

proceeding or about to proceed.

[mackmauler]

What I cant work out is why nobody brought a gps along, after all the talk about pinging charter boats marks:laugh: :laugh:

[Fisher_90]

lol he probly woulda thanked you for it.

[ellicat]

If the idiot had forewarned us the GPS was up the $hit, I've no doubt that would have been the remedy. However he was probably too worried to mention it for fear we'd cancel.

[faulked]

at least it shows the afo crew are an honest bunch who wouldnt take a gps mark without being invited to i know i wont not that i could get to there in my boat anyway

[Cowfish13]

Didn't look like there were any spots good enough to steal anyway:D

[bootyinblue]

For those on the trip who have given me their email addresses...... You got mail!

Also, a little poll for those who were on the trip.

Q) Would you be interested in another full day trip for $62 per person?

Just a yes or no is cool, and please only those on the trip need to reply.

[faulked]

id certainly let a the skipper have a go at reedeming himself anyone can have a shit day . i take it the 60bucks covers fuel or is a half price thing .

[Rocket75]

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the full day trip would be fully crewed, stocked with fresh water and be guided by a fully functioning GPS????!!!!!

If so, Kath and I be willing to give it a go (different seasick tablets I think!)

Rocket

[bootyinblue]

Well I assumed by paying twice as much, all of that would have been included!

But yea I think its all the inclusions of a full day charter at a reduced rate. Although the letter does say refreshments normally provided is tap water in bottles or plastic cups...

[ellicat]

Yes.

I would imagine he would be working it extra hard for redemption. Two charters for $187 seems reasonable value too.

I would equally welcome the return of $1350 to the group, which could be put towards another try somewhere else, or returned to those uninterested.

[faulked]

in hoping hes out to impress he should go extra hard to put us on the best spots i would hope and yes it looks like well be paying for our choice of cokes lol

[mojo]

Sorry guys but I'm gonna vote in the negative.

I'd rather get part or full refund to spend elsewhere.

I would feel uncomfortable being on the same boat again, and the possibilty of a captain with only half his heart in the job.

cheers

[Brian D]

bootyinblue wrote:

Just a yes or no is cool,

Yes from Brian D aka Chilly D, (who is trying to keep his mouth shut).

[bootyinblue]

LOL... I was just thinking Brian, you really did have a bad day, but I guess losing your hat overboard paled into insignificance with the rest of the issues..

[Brian D]

Ha, let's turn up with our own cut lunches, own water and T-shirts that read \"Deckie\" on the front and \"Gone Fishing, I mean missing\" on the back.

[ellicat]

Brian D wrote:

Ha, let's turn up with our own cut lunches, own water and T-shirts that read \"Deckie\" on the front and \"Gone Fishing, I mean missing\" on the back.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Now I wanna go, just to do that:woohoo:

[Gazza]

I don't think he will give us any sort of a refund

I'd say yes if he gives us a money back garantee that this time it's heaps of fish and with all the bells and whistles (bbq breaky etc)

Gaz

[shortie]

Shortie: yes

Grahame P: yes

Trevor J: yes

[ScottG]

where was my invite. i could have made a batch of popcorn and sat down for the show.

[chubbstar]

:woohoo: For sure I'm in, But I would need to know when? If I need to take time of work it wont be worth it for me.

Good work Booty;)

Jayson

[clifford]

Myself and AlsHilux both vote No.

We should receive a completely free charter or a refund. We should not have to subsidise their efforts to rectify their own mistakes. Why should we pay more money to get the experience that it should have been the first time.

[Rocket75]

You make a good point. Not sure if the 2nd go will be much better, especially if they are using the same sub-standard unmaintained tackle. Also even for such a large boat it was pretty overcrowded.

Rocket (& Mrs Rocket)

[bootyinblue]

There has been a few votes now so I will cast mine, and its a NO.

I dont want to give him any more money to stuff around with.

I personally think we have a good case for between 50-100% refund if we persue it, it could take some time as there is a period after listing where both partie are notified, then if that expires and guided mediation period, and if that fails arbitration.

If we get $62.50 back per person, add that to the $62 he wants you to invest in him again and book a charter elsewhere.

Just my thoughts...

[shortie]

Everyone has a bad day.

Some of us know exactly whats its like to have a customer complaint. And with some of our careers customer complaints can mean big dramas.

He has tried to rectify the situation and i believe fairly. I bet the next experience will be spot on.

With regards to gear, take you own then there is no problems. This is going to be the same with any charter you go on.

What will be guaranteed.

1. water

2. deckie

3. GPS

These were the 3 main complaints.

[Rocket75]

shortie wrote:

...With regards to gear, take you own then there is no problems....

True Shortie, but quite a few people who were on the charter do not have suitable gear and are reliant on the stuff provided. It doesn't need to be hi-tech state of the art, but it does need to be servicable and suitable.

Use of the charter operators' gear is (in part) what you are paying for in the charter fee, and therefor should be adequate in the least.

We are happy to go with the majority vote when it comes down to it regarding refund v 1/2 price 2nd chance.

Mr and Mrs Rocket