queensland Tinny troubles

[Mylesfisher]

Hello

I have had a wonderful time fishing recently and I have been wanting to upgrade my 410 dart  with a 6hp I’ve wanted to add a deck to flick off of with a trolling motor will this slow down the tinny 

Cheers, Myles

[Angry51]

Yes it will. 6 HP would not be a brute power wise.

By the time you add battery motor etc you will

add a fair bit of weight.

[Mylesfisher]

So i shouldnt?

[kmcrosby78]

That's your decision, everything is a trade-off with boats. I would suspect with only a 6hp on a 4.1m boat that you wouldn't be getting on the plane or travelling very fast anyway, so it may not be a huge negative. Where do you use it/how far do you normally travel? If you're wanting more speed a motor upgrade may also be worth considering. A 4.1m boat would 'normally' have a 20-30hp motor if you're wanting to get from A to B quickly.

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

Hi Myles

Electric motors supposedly help a lot when in tight spaces, in particular casting lures. If you’re doing a lot of lure fishing in canals and small creeks it may be worthwhile.

Cheers Hamish 

[Mylesfisher]

Yes I am flicking in canals

For gheets

I’m fishing around the Gold Coast and sometimes off at wavebreak

Also I can not get above 6hp which sucks as I am not 18 yet

[ellicat]

Maybe you should downsize the boat to reduce weight. Plenty of smaller tinnies floating around the canals.

[Mylesfisher]

Yeah but how would I afford one they cost like 4 grand lol

[ellicat]

Well you sell yours and then buy another one. lol

 

 

[rayke1938]

best way to see how the extra weight would affect your hull is to place a bucket of sand in it and see how it goes for example a100ah battery weighs aprox 30kg and see what size motor you intend to use and then work out what weight of sand to place in the bucket. Depending on your budget a lithium battery weighs about half the weight of a conventional deep cycle battery. Aldi has a 100 a/h lithium on special this week and it comes with a 3year warranty.

cheers Ray

 

[Old Scaley]

10 hours ago, rayke1938 said:

best way to see how the extra weight would affect your hull is to place a bucket of sand in it and see how it goes for example a100ah battery weighs aprox 30kg and see what size motor you intend to use and then work out what weight of sand to place in the bucket. Depending on your budget a lithium battery weighs about half the weight of a conventional deep cycle battery. Aldi has a 100 a/h lithium on special this week and it comes with a 3year warranty.

cheers Ray

 

Hey @rayke1938.  I can’t see the battery in the catalogue. What price have Aldi got on it.

[rayke1938]

https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-2-april/saturday-detail-wk13/ps/p/100ah-lithium-ion-battery/

[turdle]

If you are looking to buy the Aldi one and miss out, they're an extra $40 on amazon. Almost worth avoiding the rush at Aldi as amazon delivery is free.

[Mylesfisher]

Lookin for one that has a limit of 2 people probably a 250 I bet it would be good with my motor i have a 2 stroke 6 horsepower How much do they cost? Ive got a 310 explorer and I would love to get a flat deck and to basicallyt make it fancy for fishing cheers Myles

[Mylesfisher]

Im not going to sell my motor just the 310 how much should i sell it for? Also how much are 250s

[kmcrosby78]

Can you clarify what a ‘250’ is as I can’t seem to work it out. Also, do you also have a 410 Dart? If so, is your 6hp motor on the Dart or the 310 Explorer?

[Drop Bear]

On 07/04/2022 at 8:17 AM, Mylesfisher said:

will this slow down the tinny

Yes you will need a bigger engine to push the extra weight. Don't put the decks on unless you can get a bigger engine or are happy to travel at 8 knots. 

[Drop Bear]

11 hours ago, Mylesfisher said:

Im not going to sell my motor just the 310 how much should i sell it for? Also how much are 250s

Mate the grass is always greener on the other side. 

If you are enjoying your boat my advice is to stick with what you have. Spend a lot of time on other boats and work out what you like to do and what you like to use. 

If you like flashy boats that is fine but be ready to fork out the bills.

Everything you do in and on a boat adds compromise. Money, ease of launching, time fixing stuff, areas you can access etc but does it get you any more fish? @rayke1938and @tugger may not have shiny new boats but they catch more fish than pretty much everyone else. 

[Mylesfisher]

I actually have a 350 explorer and my motor is a 6 horsepower mercury 2 stroke what upgrades could I do also I only have to fit 3 people and I want to go 20 notts max cheers, Myles

[Old Scaley]

I am finding it difficult to follow exactly what you are asking. In the first post you had a 410 dart and you wanted to know if you could put an electric motor on it if you used your 6hp motor. Then you have a 350 explorer (or is it a 310) and you said you were keeping the motor but selling the hull, now you want to upgrade something. Maybe post again and tell us exactly what you have now and what you want to achieve? First, though, check your compliance plate to see what is the maximum size motor allowed for that hull and maximum number of people you can have in the boat. 

[Mylesfisher]

To clarify I have a 350 explorer and a 6 Hp 2 stroke as I am under 18 I can not get a bigger motor the max people is 4

and I want a motor, casting deck and just generally Ill pimp it up Is there any upgrades that I could do to up the speed of 20-25 notes max If this is too much to ask for what model of tinny could I downgrade to sorry for the confusion Cheers, Myles

[Mylesfisher]

Btw we have 2 sets of 2 fitting seats and it says max 15hp

[Mylesfisher]

I don’t have a maritime licence and I won’t for years

[turdle]

46 minutes ago, Mylesfisher said:

To clarify I have a 350 explorer and a 6 Hp 2 stroke as I am under 18

If you are under 16 and can't get a RMDL (QLD), and want to go fast with 6HP, you will need the smallest and lightest boat. Even then you will need to keep the weight down (no cast desk or extra people). Not sure how the Tinny Rats on the GC manage such speed in their boats. They're either young looking 16 year olds, or they put a 6HP sticker on their bored out 15HP outboard. 

If I was you and were under 16, I'd look at a Kayak instead for the interim, maybe with a small electric motor. Then when you're old enough to get your RMDL, upgrade to a 15HP on your explorer and then add casting deck and any extras you want. 

[ellicat]

The whole idea of limiting underage boaters to a 6 hp is to keep the speed down so as not to be dangerous. A 6hp will never get you the speeds you're talking about.

[Mylesfisher]

Oh I like the kayak Idea it’s just that I like fishing with my mates When I have one other person the speed is good I’ll keep my boat like it is. And I’ll do a weight test for my casting deck and motor I’ll see what I can do.

[Mylesfisher]

I’ve heard that styrofoam is pretty good for a deck as it is light

[Mylesfisher]

How much do decks cost and what is the lightest material to use?

[AUS-BNE-FISHO]

3 hours ago, Mylesfisher said:

How much do decks cost and what is the lightest material to use?

It would probably cost differently depending on what material you decide on and how many square metres your deck is going to be. Maybe find out how large you want your deck to be then choose your material, then you can figure out how many square metres you will need (and the cost of your material for your deck).

[rayke1938]

a 1200X 2400 sheet of ply will vary between 17kgto 30kg do not use non structural grade as the glue between plys is not water resistant. Depending where you are the cost of the structural ply will start off from around $60. Then you have to consider what bracing you need and the cost of carpet and glue. Do you really need a casting desk especially on a small tinny which are usually quite tender.

 

[Mylesfisher]

I want a 2x1m space in between the casting decks and I want the deck to fill the rest of the boat I’m not running on a budget but I want the lightest material

[turdle]

This wild reaches youtube vid should give you some ideas.

Use the thinnest ply as possible. 9mm like these guys used is as thin as you should go. will need some alloy angle support to span the gap.

Instead of marine carpet, get a small pot of external house paint, and give the ply 2-3 coats. Add some sand to paint of top surfaces and that'll give it some grip. Much easier to clean than carpet, just hose off mud, blood and guts at end of day.

[Mylesfisher]

Will sand make the ply soft I don’t want to fall and crack my head open Cheers, Myles

[Angry51]

No, it will make the surface rough like a coarse sand paper

so you don't slip on it when wet. Just makes it easier to clean 

than carpet which stinks when it gets bait and fish slime in it.