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\"Fake ranger\" I missed of missed something because ive never seen you around to be honest.

Any who, what dam do you work at? Ive got some questions about lake sampson vale if you work there.

I dont have a problem with rangers, so good to here from you. Infact haveing an inside source may be quite valueble. Ie\" Where are those hot fishing spots lately?\":cheer:

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Dear Darren,

Not to play devils advocate, but Ray mentioned in another post that he had contacted SEQ and they deny knowledge of your person. Is there any reason for this?

I am not having a go at you. In fact to the contrary, if you sday who you are, your information could be invaluable as people are often umming and arring as to \"What is the go\"?

I just wanted to ask however as this one particular anomoly seeming rather strange.

Angus

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bootyinblue wrote:

I would seriously argue that if an area is open for public use without a payment of fees, then it would be immaterial on their method of entry and not committ an offence of trespass.

I think the argument against that would be that because you don't have authority to be there, it would constitute trespassing.

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The way i see it.

Weather or not (Who cares) if he is an employee of SEQ water. THis is really insignicicant

Signs have been put up for a reason. weather or not some of us like the new designated area its been done for a purpose.

If we dont comply it is possible to loose this area entirely.

dont ruin fishing this area for all of us by doing something stupid

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Darren Hokes: You stated you are from SEQ Water, then \"to say that im not a true ranger or an employee of SEQ Water is poor form\"..

I do not understand this. Can you please clarify your position, and possibly even provide a name and number we can contact you with, and to also verify your position.

It is extremely easy for someone to claim to be another person on the internet, regardless of the existence of the alias.

I'm sure this would go a lot further in \"clearing this up!\"

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I wasn't aware of 'rangers' working for SEQ Water?

But like many before me, whether this guy is legit or not is beyond the point. If it says no fishing, don't fish there... but I guess the same people that fish in restricted zones are the same people that take undersized fish an genny crabs, so I might be butting my head against a wall.

The rules are there so our kids, and their kids can fish. So don't go ahead and bugger it up for everyone.

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who cares anyway. like some others have said if it says dont fish there dont fish. i would not however hand over my gear to a supposed ranger. darren you may \"know who you are\" and i would not give out my number either. but what about an SEQ number that would verify this. this way everyones happy and there would no more doubt of which there has been heaps according to other sites.

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Darren_Hokes wrote:

TerryH

Mate i see no need to prove myself to you. Believe what you will but i cant seem to find a reason as to why i would give out my number on the internet and to calify my position within SEQWater is none of your buisness. I know who i am and what i do and thats all that matters.

Darren,

with people of here defending your cause comments like this to a moderator wont help your cause.

Simply a seq water number (not a personal number) for some of the guys with concerns to call would be helpful.

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Darren: Surely you must have a work number that you can provide? I'm not asking for a private home number.

It's my belief that people of position and/or authority who make statements claiming to be from an organisation would have no concerns providing contact details.

We have had Australian distributers, and rangers on this board and they have not been shy to provide further contact details. Why? Because it helps themselves and the fishing community.

Your defensive and secretive nature leads me to believe you're just another fisho who wants his fishing spots all to himself, or wants to cause a stir on our site.

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Ray, I dont think anyone really cares who darren is, the issue is more about tresspassing and the new boundaries etc, it seems like hes only pointing out the obvious. if he is a govt employee i dont like your chances of getting through the privacy laws to gain any further intel.

assuming its a ranger why not just ask the other rangers to clarify what has been said as they may be using a fake name anyway i dont think the govt dept would be to keen on public unauthorised statements, again assuming.?

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Maybe just a ranger with average PR skills, and average people skills??...coz i'd personally be quick to give some form of proof that I am who i'm claiming to be.

Sweet to ask people nicely to move on. Its a job and it must be done. But yeah some sort of proof that you are a person of authority as you are claiming would help.

I don't think anyone here really has an issue with not going beyond the \"no go zone\". We just wanna clarify your authority.

So maybe a badge number? or ID number that we can clarify with the appropriate company/organisation. Surely if you have the authority to confiscate fishing rods, you will have some form of ID on you?

Otherwise I'd be inclined to kick your A** if you tried to take my fishing rods from me without ID. Not that i'd be fishing in the restricted zones though.

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No clear ID I'd tell him to take me to your leader (nanu nanu) seriously He could escort me to his homebase or headquaters fishing gear in MY posessection to clear it up and then show clear signage as where I was fishing it said no fishing

If there are no unobstructed signs or warnings fight it

I went to a spot down south to fish a Dam I had a special permit for

next thing a ranger shows up and asked what are you doing on a closed track ?

no signs where I came in so after I argued the point with the ranger I went back to where the sign was spose to be and found the barrier with sign track closed in 3 ft of grass on the side if the track so happy snaps where taken then I recieved a summons to appear to court shit that court is 1.5 hrs drive each way plus no pay for lost day at work how much could the fine be I thought :woohoo:

400$ bugger that so I appealled to have it read in my home town court

A breif court apperence showed the judge the photo's explained the fact there were trail bike tracks evey and had a permit to fish the dam where he asked the ranger about trail riders he said yeah we get quite a few judge dissmissed the case and ordered the park rangers department to pay all costs including my days lost pay :)

Gaz

Ps I dont give a bugger if your real or not show use the restricted area's so we can happly comply Official maps sure thier out there ;)

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jeff f wrote:

i think he should be very carefull about what he's doing. if any \"ranger\" approaches me without propper I.D. he might just wind up in several yabby pots

Thanks for the laugh Jeff but maybe we should advise viewers not to practice what you preach. Funny but!:laugh:

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obone wrote:

[Darren Hokes . . . Darren HOAX!?

Joel ;)

:lol:

Funny - I've never once had contact with a ranger from all the times I've fished at North Pine. I'm usually always in the authorized zones anyway, except for that nice deep spot next to the red tape at Mcgavin view.

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